River mentions Serenity plot during the series? ~mild spoilers~

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UNSARDONIC

Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:15 PM

"I think Inara's syringe was simply poison."
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I've seen in several threads questions about what was in Inara's vial and, of course, the editorial structure of that scene is designed to make you think that it is, indeed, poison...

However, when she's in her room with Simon alone, the first words out of her mouth as the scene is cut to are, "It's just a standard companion immunization kit," as she hands him the vial - just before Mal comes barging in uninvited.

I just wonder if no one else noticed this?

HOHOHO

something, something, something... "or you friends will think you're a stupid, inbred stack of meat"

HARTMEISTER

Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:24 PM

Very interesting. Very interesting, indeed...

Quote:
Originally posted by Unsardonic:
"I think Inara's syringe was simply poison."
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However, when she's in her room with Simon alone, the first words out of her mouth as the scene is cut to are, "It's just a standard companion immunization kit," as she hands him the vial - just before Mal comes barging in uninvited.

I just wonder if no one else noticed this?

HOHOHO

RABBIT2

Monday, October 31, 2005 7:21 PM

One idea about the start of the war that recently occured to me.
Suppose that there had already been political tensions between the Alliance and some of the Independent factions.
An early Reaver attack takes place on an isolated Alliance outpost.
Since the existance of the Reavers is unknown to all but a few in Blue Sun and the Alliance government, one of these Independent groups is assumed to be responsable.
The Alliance declares war on this group and launch an all out attack on them, this is seen as an act of agression by the other Independent factions so they unite and counterattack.
Result, system wide warfare.
This is just speculation on my part but, I wonder.....?

LIMINALOSITY

Monday, October 31, 2005 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gambit3:
if anyone wants to continue and finish my work... the rest of the scripts are here

Thanks for all the scripts together in one place, and for all the Riverisms.

I've been leaving this one to Doncoat, since he brought up the scene in another thread a couple of weeks ago, but maybe he's not coming to this party, so I'll add it to the list of creepy Riverisms, cause when I dug the whole quote out of Ariel (Act 3, when the Alliance boys have R, S & J in handcuffs), it literally gave me the shivers...

RIVER
Came down the stairs for the shiny
presents, but they took the tree and
the stockings. Nothing left but coal.

SIMON
River, what are you talking about?

RIVER
Christmas. You can't open your
presents before.

JAYNE
(to Simon)
Shut her up.

RIVER
(to Jayne)
And don't look in the closet, either.
That's greedy. It's not in the
spirit of the holiday.

In the read Summer gives the line, it sounds to me like she says 'It's greedy, it's not in the spirit of the holiday',
(and as I see it she's also telling Jayne she knows he gave them up for the re-ward), but still.
Whhhhoooaaat's in the closet baby?

Slightly OT: There's a River line in act 2 I like as well when R & S first wake from the sleepy drugs, where R says:

RIVER
A copper for a kiss.

Sounds like she's channeling Druscilla for a sec.
That dang Joss just puts in all kinds of treats for us kiddies!

More digging! More digging with both paws!

Shiny Trees! Yavanna made Shiny Trees!

IMALEAF

Monday, October 31, 2005 9:30 PM

Thanks GAMBIT3 for posting that!

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

COCOAKATZE

Monday, October 31, 2005 10:33 PM

In regards to the Blue Sun corp and what it is...

I think in the series, the blue sun/blue hand guys were going to be major players and we can only speculate as to what their roles would have been...

...but I think once the movie was made Joss conveniently ended their role ...that is to say ended their plot thread in the overarching storyline by what he wrote in the comic books...

I don't want to spoil the comic book but at one point it talks about "our independent contractors have disappeared" After reading the comic book several times I realize that could be either Dobson and/or the blue hand guys...

So my first impression was that maybe the blue sun guys were just independent contractors hired by the alliance.... of course I could have interpreted it all wrong...

what do ya'll think?

GOTKAYLEE

Monday, October 31, 2005 11:09 PM

I was confused when I read this the first time and I went and checked to make sure. The immunization kit that Inara hands to Simon isn't the vial. The vial is in a small green box with a flower on it and she hands Simon a few silver sealed packets.
Plus in the commentary Joss mentions that it may seem that the vial is just a suicide kit/poison, but it was actually something else he never got the chance to explain.
If you go to Can't Take the Sky, you can see it in the screencaps.
Not knowing what Inara's vial really was has bothered me since the first time I watched the show.

"They were little geisha dolls with big heads that wobbled!"

DREAMTROVE

Monday, October 31, 2005 11:45 PM

Everything River says makes perfect sense. Everyone else is just talking crazy. Maybe someone posted this and I missed it.

River: "Look. FOX went into the henhouse. He tried to eat the eggs before they could break free, so they couldn't grow strong...didn't want their tales told through chirping. But the hens fought back. Pecked and pecked, saved their own. So many holes...he looks better in red."

UNSARDONIC

Monday, October 31, 2005 11:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gotkaylee:
The immunization kit that Inara hands to Simon isn't the vial. The vial is in a small green box with a flower on it and she hands Simon a few silver sealed packets.

Huh...

thanks for your help - I have loaned out my boxset again so I can't refer back to what you're describing. My umm... MEMORY... of that scene was that she'd handed Simon the box too, but you might completely correct. Gotta take your word for it until I get my box back

HOHOHO

something-something-something... "or your friends will think you're stupid, inbred stack of meat"

BENSHAHN

Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:19 AM

Quote:
Plus in the commentary Joss mentions that it may seem that the vial is just a suicide kit/poison, but it was actually something else he never got the chance to explain.

In the series, Inara is dying. The syringe is supposed to be our first clue. It contains a painkiller which she intends to take so she won't be able to feel what the Reavers do to her. Since the idea wasn't further explored in the series it is re -cycled in a sightly different way and used in the comics.

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