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Inara knows about Book the whole time

POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 07:15
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Friday, June 6, 2003 9:31 AM

Oh yeah, the script in question was "War Stories" - in case anyone else read the first run of it and also spotted that...

Wouldn't mind any more detail or comfirmation, there.

-Frem

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Friday, June 6, 2003 3:25 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Thing is, they name an alliance officer who's tactical plan resulted in the crushing defeat of the alliance there - and I honestly suspect Book is that officer.

Wow, I had not heard that before. Very interesting to think Book is directly responsible for Mal's defeat. What irony, that a preacher took a man's faith.

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Friday, June 6, 2003 4:06 PM

::snipity snip snip really cool post::

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Originally posted by Talonpest:
CCT: Not to rain on your parade or anything, but Book was no sniper- he was higher up than that. He wasn't carrying out orders, he was giving them. His line in River's vision puts him in a position to judge people- snipers don't know their victims, they kill from a distance. A sniper victim would never have a chance to beg for mercy or to plead his case.



Ooh, you have spawned a... ehh what do you call plotholes that want to be explained in Firefly and just scream at you to write fanfiction? Us crazy LotR Fanfiction folk call them Nuzguls... but we need a new name here... what do we call those persistant plot bunnies, savage and cruel? Reavers? Alliance Bunnies? Bluehands? Browncoats? Jayne?

"Gorram! Been bitten by a Jayne! Now gotta write about Book." Got a funny kinda ring, there...

Book the Inquisitor! Tormenting the souls of poor Browncoats to get information for those cruel Alliance demons... The jump from inquisitor to monk is a nice, easy backwards jump. And if you've been interrogating people, you have lots to be guilty for, neh? We know Alliance uses interrogation ("Safe", again) but we were shown truly mild stuff in that episode.

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Book had to have been a career military man. He deffinately participaed in the war, but given his age and the urgency with which the Alliance crewman ordered him to be cared for in "Safe," he must have been a general. His decision to leave had to have been motivated by an incident where he did something so immoral and horrible that even a hardened military veteran had to beg for forgiveness by devoting his life to god. Most likely ordering a massacre of civilians or using a biological weapon- something that killed a whole lotta innocent people.



Or head inquisitor. ::is keen on this idea:: Maybe he learned some things no man should have to know about, or had to use some particularly painful methods to get information outta people. In which case his name would be recognized in "Safe" and he'd be... in good hands.

Serenity; Ship, Valley, State of mind

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Friday, June 6, 2003 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by Succatash:
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Thing is, they name an alliance officer who's tactical plan resulted in the crushing defeat of the alliance there - and I honestly suspect Book is that officer.

Wow, I had not heard that before. Very interesting to think Book is directly responsible for Mal's defeat. What irony, that a preacher took a man's faith.



This makes complete sense to me. Is the original script for this still available for reading?
I am so glad this thread popped up. Book is my favorite character. I am now almost certain from reading this thread that Book and Inara knew of each other, but most likely hadn't ever directly met.

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Friday, June 6, 2003 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by cct:
I wondered (re: the pilot episode)why, when Book visited her shuttle with dinner, that she said she was expecting him...



After their awkward meeting (due to Mal's calling her their ambassador then dropping the "W" word on Book), Inara had expected him to come to lecture her on the evils of her ways. She even says as much to him. (That's when he comes back with he brought her some food, but he has some good sermons with hellfire and brimstone if she'd prefer...)

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Friday, June 6, 2003 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by Talonpest:
This leads me to speculate that he was a bounty hunter, not Alliance... though the "Safe" incident kind of goes against it.



Perhaps he's DEEP undercover as a spy/mole for the alliance (or some faction, perhaps sent to keep an eye on River...)

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Friday, June 6, 2003 9:04 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Thing is, they name an alliance officer who's tactical plan resulted in the crushing defeat of the alliance there - and I honestly suspect Book is that officer.

It would explain a great deal, especially as relates to his relationship with Mal.

{snip snip}

(H)e begins to realize he's shipping with THAT "Malcom Reynolds", and he's not so bad a person.

Humanizing "the enemy" makes them impossible to hate - think about it.




OOOhhhh.. I remember having seen that scene with Zoe and Simon talking about Serenity Valley. now my brain is telling me I need to spend more of my precious bandwidth to re-download the unaired version once again.

I love the idea that the Captain was his enemy and now he knows him.. THAT works much better for me than Book knowing Inara in the past. Explains the tears, the questioning of Inara about Mal caring so much for his crew... ooooohhH. my brain is on overdrive now. Scuse me.



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Friday, June 6, 2003 9:58 PM

>>OOOhhhh.. I remember having seen that scene with Zoe and Simon talking about Serenity Valley. now my brain is telling me I need to spend more of my precious bandwidth to re-download the unaired version once again.<<

That's the scene, where Simon looks up the battle of serenity valley in there and Zoe asks him "what's it say about bloodbath?" and explains what REALLY happened after the shooting stopped.

The reader simon was using (the script for it anyhow) mentions the alliance officer by name.

I highly suspect Book is the officer in question.

-Frem
HEY FOX!

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Friday, June 6, 2003 10:09 PM

FOUND it.

Wrong ep tho.. it was the original Serenity (pilot ep) script, page 67-69

The original FOX firefly site still has it in the "spoilers" section.

The relevant URL is this.


-Frem
"I saw the problem when I was down there on my back earlier..." - Kaylee

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Friday, June 6, 2003 10:11 PM

GAH!!, sorry, meant to post the URL *only*... how'd it do that ??
Didn't mean to step on any rules(if I just did) or clog the bandwidth...
Yer welcome to fix it if it hasta be, Haken.

-Frem

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