Technology in the 'verse

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ZEKE023

Friday, June 6, 2003 1:09 PM

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Originally posted by Thegn:
I'm not entirely confident in Joss' knowledge of astrophysics.

I will agree that Joss is more focused on story than on the technology he keeps intentionally vague (which is probably a good thing).

THEGN

Friday, June 6, 2003 2:42 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfhawk:
The mutual array of egotistical ignorence here is impressive, to say the least.

We, humanity, don't know the total knowledge of the universe yet, but you guys are willing to waste a thread playing like you do. Couldn't you take this little scrap to emails or sumthin?

Thanks.

tanstaafl

I'm not so sure there's a little scrap here, but if you'd like to join the discussion all you have to do is jump in. The presence of only Chris, Zed and myself is somewhat limiting in focus a little, and I'm sure all of us would welcome your contribution.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

THEGN

Friday, June 6, 2003 2:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zeke023:
I will agree that Joss is more focused on story than on the technology he keeps intentionally vague (which is probably a good thing).

Many science fiction writers tend to be a little vague in the science, and perhaps even very liberal in their use of pseudo-science, oftentimes moreso then they need to be. I would prefer a more accurate depiction of the science, but the more important issue is the stories of the people and connection with human nature, which I think Joss does well.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

ZEKE023

Friday, June 6, 2003 2:59 PM

I wish he would just tell us! Come out with a sourcebook!

We could argue these fact indefinately.

I think when it really boils down to it - we have to go with what is actually stated in the show.

And we don't have much to work with.

THEGN

Friday, June 6, 2003 3:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zeke023:
I wish he would just tell us! Come out with a sourcebook!

We could argue these fact indefinately.

I think when it really boils down to it - we have to go with what is actually stated in the show.

And we don't have much to work with.

True. Everything you say is true.

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In the Dark Ages, Romano-Celtic Britannia was over-run by Viking-like cultures collectively called the Anglo-Saxons. They were led by warlords called Drytinns, and the greatest warriors among them were the Thegns.

CALDEEN

Friday, June 6, 2003 3:35 PM

You can argue anything. In the verse I am running there are many different planets orbiting many different suns. The core worlds were colinized first and have developed the most. If you want to make yours one planetary system do so. However where are the Reavers hiding?

There is a string of beacons that relay the cortex. They run from planet to planet along the major travel routes and can be avoided. For direct communication you have to be in system, planatary system. Longer range communications you can "Send a wave." Basicly an email message. One of the first things the alliance does after terraforming is plop down a box so they can tell the settlers what to do, and ignore thier requests.

As for the engine "The reavers opperate with out core containment. Thats suicide." I assumed they did this because they dont maintain the ships any more than to keep them running. The engine has to be something that leaks bad stuff though. Does fusion? I am not a scientist and dont try to justify these things. It is my game.

Gravity, I dont know. they have some kind of artifical gravity that they can turn on and off at will. The floated in the airlock after getting the loot for Badger and dropped when gravity was turned back on. In out of gas they still had some power, batteries maybe. After all the lights still worked.

What system are you useing? I prefer the interlock system from Cyberpunk 2020. Always remember it is your game. Just be sure to keep notes about the Verse because those gamers are.

"Get a life!?" I am a Gamer! I have LOTS of lives.

ZEKE023

Friday, June 6, 2003 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by caldeen:
What system are you useing? I prefer the interlock system from Cyberpunk 2020. Always remember it is your game. Just be sure to keep notes about the Verse because those gamers are.

I am probably going to use GURPS. Although some of my players are really pushing for d20 modern. I'd rather not though. I prefer GURPS.

-Z

KENWOOD

Friday, June 6, 2003 8:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zeke023:
Quote:
Originally posted by caldeen:
What system are you useing? I prefer the interlock system from Cyberpunk 2020. Always remember it is your game. Just be sure to keep notes about the Verse because those gamers are.

I am probably going to use GURPS. Although some of my players are really pushing for d20 modern. I'd rather not though. I prefer GURPS.

-Z

I'm playing in a D20 modern game right now and it's really a pretty good system. Possibly the best of the published D20 systems. I wouldn't use it for FF though. I'm modifying the Melliniums End system right now for my upcomming game. The system has alot of perks for FF. No HP or such, advantrages to useing handguns and not wearing armor, getting shot is very deadly but not right away. Hard rules to find anymore though.

Later,

ME.

Don't look back, som'thin' might be gainin' on ya.
Who let the pigs play poker?
Evo Shander was right!

KENWOOD

Friday, June 6, 2003 8:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfhawk:
The mutual array of egotistical ignorence here is impressive, to say the least.

We, humanity, don't know the total knowledge of the universe yet, but you guys are willing to waste a thread playing like you do. Couldn't you take this little scrap to emails or sumthin?

Thanks.

tanstaafl

This was my point when I first questioned Thegn's wet blanket statment. We are far from knowing all the rules and our current best theories say that FTL is possible. ( By the By Thegn's studies apparently includes neither antena & signal theory nor astrophysics. 2-3 light years for binary star systems about killed me. )

Anyway, Joss apparently knows less than any of us about this. His briliance is in story telling not science. For most games I prefer a good set of ideas on how things work but for a FF game it just doesn't fit. It's all FM. I'm just going to say it works how it needs to for the story and that is that. Note that Kaylee is called a mechanic not an engineer. My assumption is that she really doesn't know the physics of how the systems work, just the mechanics. In general none of the characters should have this knowledge. If they did they would
be on a core world earning obscene amounts of money.

My real question is why so many of the guns seem to make that "pneumatic" noise. They still appear to use cased ammo. Any thoughts?

Later,

ME.

Don't look back, som'thin' might be gainin' on ya.
Who let the pigs play poker?
Evo Shander was right!

AYEFFKAY

Monday, June 9, 2003 11:13 AM

i don't know if this was mentioned, but in war stories it was said that they had 20,000 miles to go to their last drop point. for the sake of argument, let's say it takes them four minutes to go that far (about how much episode time passed, but it could have taken much longer for all we know). that's 5,000 miles per minute. in that case, the firefly 'galaxy' can only be a solar system. at an average speed of 5000 miles per minute, it would take a little over 2 years to travel the distance from earth that was to the sun. it would take about 9400 years to travel from our sun to the nearest star. we haven't seen any evidence of light-speed travel, and even if they could travel at the speed of light it would take 4.2 years to get to the nearest star. and that star doesn't have any planets. the nearest star we know of with planets is 12 times as far away, 112,000 years at 5,000 miles per minute, or 51 years at the speed of light. this isn't star trek

here's another point: if technology existed to travel at or faster than the speed of light, humanity would have already colonized other planets, and they wouldn't have to do it as a result of earth getting used up

conclusion: there is only one sun for all the human terraformed and colonized planets

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