A suit's eye view on Serenity and sequels

POSTED BY: tiredoldreaver
UPDATED: Sunday, October 30, 2005 18:03
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RABBIT2

Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:11 AM

It was the catalyser, God, I`m such goram a techhead.
Its good to see though, that somebody round here has sat down and done some analysis of the numbers.
On the one hand we`ve had a lot of wailing and chestbeating over failure and on the other a lot of hopelessly optimistic speculation.
I am hoping that we will eventually see a sequel to Serenity in a couple of years but a new series on TV? Seems unlikely, FOX will probably sit on the TV rights and take the profits on the Firefly DVD sales and any new airings of the old series. Letting Universal pay for making any new Serenity stuff.
This business of the rights being held by two different corporations could cause compications for anybody wanting to do any merchandising. Who do you pay if you want to use an image of the ship for example?

TIREDOLDREAVER

Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:28 PM

Thank you Rabbit2! The catalyser, of course....I should really know these eps off by heart now anyway......
Interesting point on the proprietry rights of the product.I would think that this was one of the stumbling blocks originally.Universal would want all ongoing product/merchandising rights. There may even have been negotiations between Fox/Universal over the Firefly dvd ongoing rights (they can be time limited). I don't know if they did, but it's perfectly possible for Universal to buy out Fox's rights on Firefly. Again, a cost/profit decision, but there would be a good commercial sense to it. Does anybody know if these discussions took place and if so what was the outcome?
Were it me, and of course it's not, if I were going to make the film, I would try and buy out Firefly at a better price (for me that is!) before any movie was greenlighted, and then control full rights.
Conversely, were I looking at the Fox position, I'd have the name Firefly protected and piggy back additional income off the film.
Would have been naive of Universal to let Fox get a clear run on it however.....

FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:31 AM

Hi, tiredoldreaver!

Thank you my friend, you certainly made my day!
I am blue no longer!

What you said about concentrating on the countries that spend the bucks makes perfect sense. I see the wisdom now.

I will await further suit insight.

And keep watching my DVD's and awaiting Serenity's release on DVD, when I can contribute somemore!

I"ll be watching the posts.

Good night....

"Believe me, we are very much Still Flying."

Ah, kind words very much appreciated!

NERDLOVER

Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tiredoldreaver:
Interesting point on the proprietry rights of the product.I would think that this was one of the stumbling blocks originally.Universal would want all ongoing product/merchandising rights. There may even have been negotiations between Fox/Universal over the Firefly dvd ongoing rights (they can be time limited). I don't know if they did, but it's perfectly possible for Universal to buy out Fox's rights on Firefly. Again, a cost/profit decision, but there would be a good commercial sense to it. Does anybody know if these discussions took place and if so what was the outcome?
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Would have been naive of Universal to let Fox get a clear run on it however.....

I have asked this question before, and was told that Universal profited off Serenity sales only... however, I agree that would have been naive on Universal's part and I think that this response was based more on assumption than research... After all, FF is showing on SciFi but given its early time slot it is probably not that profitable. how does one find this out? Any Universal exec fans like to give us some inside information?

LILBITWICKED

Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:03 PM

I too am newly blown away by the Firefly experience. I watched every re-run episode on the Sci-Fi channel. I just couldnt get enough. I then rushed out to watch Serenity and was again amazed at the complexity of the characters, the humor, the action and I must say the ADDICTION. I feel like a novice having missed the last few years of firefly. I am however ready to make up for it. How can they not restart the series after all of this success? Not just with the faithful followers but with the newbies like myself and many others. Bring on the letter writing campaigns and petition signing. Im IN!!!

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