River mentions Serenity plot during the series? ~mild spoilers~

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JOSSISMYBOSS

Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:39 AM

There was an archived radio interview with joss on here where Joss mentioned that if we had done our homework that we should remember an instance on the show when River mentioned something (probably cryptic) about the whole reaver conspiracy that's in the movie.

Does anyone remember what she said, or when she said it? I can't for the life of me remember and my dvd's are currently on loan to a new initiate....

This is driving me a bit bonkers, so if anyone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.

P.S...if you go looking for the radio interview, be warned: it is PACKED with spoilers about the movie

LORIE

Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:58 AM

I think it's time for a Firefly marathon. I'll watch the series this weekend, maybe I'll notice it.

GIANTEVILHEAD

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:05 AM

I don't know, River didn't really have that many lines in the show.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

GAMBIT3

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:36 AM

River lines in:

SERENITY (PILOT)
-Simon...?
-Simon... They talk to me, they want me to... to talk...
-Simon...
-I slept for so long...
-I didn't think you'd come for me.

THE TRAIN JOB
-Simon.
-It's not relevant.
-This isn't home.
-Midbulk transport, standard radion-accelerator core, classcode 03-K64, "Firefly".
-Mal. Bad. In the Latin.
-Won't stop. They'll never stop.
-They'll just keep coming until they get back what you took.
-Two by two, hands of blue... two by two, hands of blue...
-Two by two, hands of blue, two by two, hands of blue....

BUSHWHACKED
- Ghosts.
- No. Can't sleep. Too much screaming.
- There was.
- I followed the voices.
- Let's go again.
- He's coming back.

SHINDIG
- There it is, there it is. It's always there if you look for it. Everybody sees and nobody sees it...
- These are the ones that take you! Little ones in the corner that you almost don't see. But they're the ones that reach in and do it. They're the ones with teeth and you have to smash them!
- A million things, and the little ends of the roots go everywhere and when you brush your teeth or all the little blue things are there but no one says it because, because sometimes they're afraid. And then they come...
- There's things in the air in there. Tiny things.
- Pull, pull...
- Sure, I got a secret. More'n one.
- Don't seem likely I'd tell 'em to you, do it? Anyone off Dyton Colony know's better'n to talk to strangers.
- You're talking loud enough for the both of us, though, ain't you? I've known a dozen like you. Skipped off home early, minor graft jobs here and
there. Spent some time in the lock-down, I warrant, but less than you claim. Now you're what, petty thief with delusions of standing? Sad little king of a sad little hill.
-Not really. Call me f'anyone interesting shows up.

Whew!! Had no idea River had so many deep lines in Shindig...
Ok, that's enough for now..

if anyone wants to continue and finish my work... the rest of the scripts are here

Serenity
http://average-bear.com/firefly/100.html

The Train Job
http://average-bear.com/firefly/101.html

Bushwhacked
http://average-bear.com/firefly/102.html

Shindig
http://average-bear.com/firefly/103.html

Safe
http://average-bear.com/firefly/104.html

Our Mrs. Reynolds
http://average-bear.com/firefly/105.html

Jaynestown
http://average-bear.com/firefly/106.html

Out of Gas
http://average-bear.com/firefly/107.html

Ariel
http://average-bear.com/firefly/108.html

War Stories
http://average-bear.com/firefly/109.html

Trash
http://average-bear.com/firefly/110.html

The Message
http://average-bear.com/firefly/111.html

Heart of Gold
http://average-bear.com/firefly/112.html

Objects in Space
http://average-bear.com/firefly/113.html

Dead or Alive
http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=45

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PURPLEYIN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:42 AM

aside from the obvious from bushwhatked, the little things in the air from shindig sound like our winners...

RABIT

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jossismyboss:
There was an archived radio interview with joss on here where Joss mentioned that if we had done our homework that we should remember an instance on the show when River mentioned something (probably cryptic) about the whole reaver conspiracy that's in the movie.

Personally, I find that comical, since in one of the intros in Finding Serenity ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932100431/103-3411237-9653439?v=glan
ce&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance), Jane Espenson specifically says that the origin of the Reavers in the movie is not the origin that was planned for the series. Joss had to change it to fit the medium.

Now that doesn't mean that the line he's refering to doesn't still work! I'm just pointing out how Joss will take something he hadn't planned and turn it into something useful and impressive. I personally think that's very shiny, and do my best to emulate that in my RPGs.

Rabit

N0SKILLZ

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:37 PM

heres what sounds like our winners so far from his post

There it is, there it is. It's always there if you look for it. Everybody sees and nobody sees it... (could be talking bout maranda)
- These are the ones that take you! Little ones in the corner that you almost don't see.(the people that weren't reavers on maranda) But they're the ones that reach in and do it. They're the ones with teeth and you have to smash them!(reavers?)
- A million things, and the little ends of the roots go everywhere and when you brush your teeth or all the little blue things are there but no one says it because, because sometimes they're afraid. And then they come... (the molecules of the PAX? and reavers after? of course mixed in with crazy talk)
- There's things in the air in there. Tiny things. (and again with the PAX?)

thats what i got, but work wont let me get to the sites to find more.

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"It's not that there HAS to be a sequel. It's just that I've got so many IDEAS..."-Joss Whedon
*Andersen AFB, Guam*

THECRAZYIVAN

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:38 PM

great thread...and great links

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"There is a sense that this is still not over. It's hard to put a finger on what's so special about this project and about this group of people, but it's just one of those things you have to trust in, and relish. I am very, very proud."
---Jewel Staite on "Firefly" and "Serenity" in "Finding Serenity" (essay collection by Jane Espenson)

PHOEBE

Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:02 AM

In Safe, River says to Simon that she has some horrible memories in her head, and they're not hers, but she can't always tell what's a real memory, what's HER real memory, and what's fake.

Reminds me of "Whatever classified information she may have ACCIDENTALLY gleamed, it's probable that they're buried beneath layers of psychosis."

Doesn't hint on the Reavers but does explain why the Alliance want her so badly.

BENSHAHN

Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 AM

Personally, I find that comical, since in one of the intros in Finding Serenity ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932100431/103-3411237-9653439?v=glan
ce&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance), Jane Espenson specifically says that the origin of the Reavers in the movie is not the origin that was planned for the series. Joss had to change it to fit the medium.

Now that doesn't mean that the line he's refering to doesn't still work! I'm just pointing out how Joss will take something he hadn't planned and turn it into something useful and impressive. I personally think that's very shiny, and do my best to emulate that in my RPGs.

Rabit

Yeah, Joss has basically said he took just the outline of River's story from the series and used it for the movie. In the series, her secret is that Blue Sun runs the government and as such is responsible for what happened to her. In the series the Reaver origin probably relates to Mal's dark past, something from the war (examples from the series: Mal-bad-in the Latin, I haven't seen that kind of torture since the war, nothing worse than a monster thinks he's right with god )

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