new Joss Whedon interview - Empire On-line

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JESIAHBLACK

Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:16 PM

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Originally posted by nerdlover:
I wanted the series to come back very badly as well. After watching Serenity, however, I'm actually not so sure. Yes, having a weekly FF fix would be a wonderful thing to look forward to, but having the story done in bug budget, big action format has its own appeal. I too would be horribly disappointed to see the series decline the way Buffy did (it really jumped the shark when it introduced Glory, most annoying villain in the 'verse). And I would like our beloved FF actors become big movie stars... they deserve it after giving life and depth to the characters that mean so much to us. I just have one request--will Mal and Inara kiss? I mean, for real? Finally?!?!

I agree with this line of thinking to an extent. Not so much that it will decline, which i disagree with, but that a new series may not be the best option.

I love Firefly as a series, and by extention i loved Serenity. While i'd very much like it if a certain turn of events didn't happen and we still had our beloved series going strong, i think that time is now buried in the past. To me (and i could be wrong), it seems as if Joss is on his way to wrapping up this 'verse with the next movie(s), at least concerning this particular story arc. That we're going to see the crew through to the end of this (which i anticipate will feature another war, perhaps with our crew at the frontlines, perhaps not), and then see them maybe finally find some relative peace...if any of them still live.

It may seem like blasphemy, but things to me feel so far gone from the humble roots of a crew, a family, just trying to make it by that there's no way they can return. I always looked at it as if this was the end; Serenity and her boys and girls are getting into something huge, and there's no going back, and that works for both the characters and for us. Joss is fixing to tell the story he wanted to through the series that he never got a chance to finish. The problem is, stories end. It just seems like he wants to tell this story, finish it, share it with all of us, before the chance is gone. I really don't think it can happen by going back to the series. Seems sort of final, i know, but part of me likes it this way, too.

Bottom line is, i think this is the home stretch; Joss wants to tell his story, and the best way for him to do that will be through these next two(?) movies. There's no going back to the series, however much we want it, and i personally don't think it'll be the same at all if that somehow happened to be the case.

If i didn't sound like too much of an idiot and you can sift through that with relatively little damage, thumbs up all around.

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"Oh, I was born, a six-gun in my hand. Behind a gun I'll make my final stand."

KLOUD

Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:33 PM

No...more...Firefly?...

KLOUD

Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:33 PM

Cause that would suck

JESIAHBLACK

Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:50 PM

Not seeing that ship in the black or it's crew again period would suck infinitely more, i'd think.

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"Oh, I was born, a six-gun in my hand. Behind a gun I'll make my final stand."

FALLENANGEL

Friday, October 28, 2005 8:34 AM

I don't care how the Firefly verse comes back. If the series comes back on tv. That would be shiny. If there's two more Serenity movies. That would be shiny too. I don't care! I just want my fix!

"This must be what going mad feels like."

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"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."-Wash.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:48 PM

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I'd rather have three fantastic movies than two or three fantastic seasons and a bunch of flaccid, disappointing ones.

As a math major who knows zealot-like star wars fans this is what I just read:

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I’d rather have six fantastic hours than forty-four or sixty-six fantastic hours and other stuff I can ignore.

Part of history is editing things out. Are you honestly telling me that you would prefer to miss out on between thirty-eight and sixty hours of fantastic Firefly/Serenity because you can neither ignore nor deal with additional bits you don’t like?

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All the diehard Star Wars fans I know (those being the ones more devoted to Star Wars than most are to their religions of choice) have rejected the prequels as apocryphal.

In fact, having mentioned religion,
All Protestants I know have rejected the book of Tobit as apocryphal
All Catholics I know reject the Gospel of Thomas as apocryphal.

Back onto sci-fi
Many Star Trek fans I know reject all of Enterprise as apocryphal
Almost all Dune Fans I know reject all but the first six as apocryphal.

Notice a pattern here? A season coming out need not be accepted as real by you, and if everyone else on earth is any indication you are fully capable of ignoring its existence.

(Seriously, when was the last time you heard a Christian of any mainstream sect say, "Let me now quote from the Apocalypse of Paul,"? Gospel of Thomas doesn't get much play either.)

RABBIT2

Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:05 PM

Well people are perfectly free to reject what they dont like, I dont understand that attitude however.
I sometimes feel that we fans can sometimes destroy or weaken the fiction we love simply by expecting `more of the same` from its authors.
Some authors pander to this, continually following the same old format, fortunately Joss isn`t one of them.
I would be quite happy if Serenity was the end of the story, the end of the movie is, I think a good ending for Firefly/Serenity as a whole but I do hope Joss might continue to surprise me in a movie sequel in a couple of years.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rabbit2:
Well people are perfectly free to reject what they dont like, I dont understand that attitude however.

All that I'm saying is that it does not make sense to me to reject that which you would like in order to avoid the mere possibility that there will be something you do not like.

That is what some people have said, someone said that they would rather have 6 hours of high quality, than 44 to 66* hours of EQUAL quality (in addition to at least 2 of the original 6) if an undetermined number of hours after that are not up to their standards.

If you want to cut out at least 91% of something good just because you fear there might be something you don't like afterwards why not just cut out the afterwards?

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* The figures of 6 hours and 44 to 66 hours are based on the statement that 3 fantastic movies is preferable to 2 or 3 fantastic seasons, assuming two hour movies and one hour episodes with a run of 22 per season.

91% is a rounding of 90.909090…% based on the 4 additional hours of movies as opposed to the two additional seasons (44 hours.)

Of course the figures presented here are rounded, TV episodes are shorter than one hour, and movies are unpredictable, but I've just had a death in the family and I'm not in the mood to nit-pick proportional comparisons in fiction.

In fact I'd rather not nit-pick anything. So, while I encourage anyone to explain why they disagree with what I just said, don't expect me to respond, elaborate, or do anything else remotely social.

EMPTY

Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:27 AM

I just dont agree with the notion that another movie is better than more eps, look what makes firefly good is the fact that it elaborates on how the people in it are real, the fact that they all coexist on the Serenity is what makes this series great in my opinion, that feeling of warmth and happiness is something that has kept me goin through some tough times back when the series was on sci-fi, the fact that i could escape to this completely different place where none of the real world crap i had to deal with applies...it let me put stuff behind me

a movie...is a like a frickin synopsis, you miss out on so many of the emotions the events, the humor, the LIVES of these people-honestly tell me which would you prefer to see:
how the crew of the serenity beat some other alliance lackey
or
how mal and inara get it on...
Be honest here, i know which i prefer-a movie is like taking the mighty bat 'o' nerfage and wailing mightily on the poor character development side of things, the side i love.

ANOTHER SERIES-any day over a 6 hour synopsis of a phenominally good story arc
And even though buffy went down hill, can you honestly say you didn watch it, i dont care if it goes down hill i wanna see it, if its crap i wanna see it..just on the offhand chance it'll be peachy alllll the way... i believe in Joss, he seems serious about loving FF, if you love something you make it work

also...the more time i get to see Summer Glau on screen the better

Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

--'look if you need me just run in circles, shouting my name and waving banners with my name on them...when you've done that for, what, say 3 hours; you can...you know...like phone me : P'

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