new Joss Whedon interview - Empire On-line

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FILLIONFLAN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:39 PM

Thanks for bearing with us newbies, msckaren! I have been thinking what a pain it must be for all you dedicated long term fans for us recent initiates to suddenly be flooding the boards with our new-found love! We gotta let it out somewhere!

ZOE: “It’s just, the Captain’s so tense…”
WASH: “Of course he’s tense. He’s awake.”

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:44 PM

If money influences the next direction the 'verse takes I can't see why it wouldn't be back to tv in some form. The one indisputable dollar success FF has had is in sales of the tv series on dvd. So, as has been suggested by many others, Firefly ala Battlestar Galactica on Scifi, 11 eps then another big selling dvd, etc. The lemonade meister in me even thinks the movies "performance" may lower it's value to F*X in terms of its strangle hold on the tv rights. "Dear Buddha..."

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EMBERS

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:05 PM

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Originally posted by Grounded:
Hasn't it been discussed many, many times on here before that a return to TV was nigh on impossible, barring some sort of spinoff? I'm surprised people are getting depressed about this now when it's been repeated, and by Joss himself no less, plenty of times in the past.

It is true that there isn't anything new here,
but I hang on Joss' every word!

I have to say that I don't find it all depressing though,
I'm glad that the BDM was such a good experience for Joss Whedon.

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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse,
and have you joined the Browncoats yet?
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/?fuseaction=tools.invlink
&u=embers&linkID=36

CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:

hold up there cowboy...
Serenity did NOT bomb,
it was not a big blockbuster success, but it got great reviews, and it has done about as well as most of the other movies that have come out this Fall (obviously it has been a depressed movie box office, but that is not Joss' fault).

Frankly I think Universal will have no trouble making a profit on Serenity in the long run

This thread has may o' truth to be listened to here!

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Scythe404, I am right there with you. it is pretty great to have the 14 episodes and the film that we do have. Me, I'll take whatever more I can get. And be damn happy with what we've already got. As has been pointed out in previous posts, we've already gotten way more than we got with six Star Wars movies as far as quality hour for hour.

I love the positive new blood on this board *Applauds new Browncoats since the BDM opened*
Have faith, Tim Minear may get the sequel- it's not over yet, folks....
*Passes out the colours-of-the-rainbow protein cookies*

Chrisisall

SEVREN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:24 PM

Indeed. The Browncoats are not going away, and neither is the crew of Serenity. This movie did not bomb. Its done just fine in the theatres. Look at how Doom opened. I believe it made roughly 15 million its first weekend and it was showing at 1000 more theatres than the BDM. Mal and co. will live again, we've not seen the last of them.

A sw-what?

HARTMEISTER

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:36 PM

I think that we can conclude that Josh would like a movie rather than a series. But I want to bring up a better idea than a movie (but not as good as a series). What about either having Firefly become a limited series or an occassional mini-series? I give two different examples of both.

The former would be "Columbo". Originally developed as part of of an mystery anthology series, it quickly developed as the one series that had the best legs. Unusual among the mystery genre as you knew who the killer was, the mystery was where did the killer mess up? What clue did Columbo pick up that the killer overlooked? This is similar to Firefly which you can think of a western that is set in the future or as a sci-fi series where everybody acts like it is a western. Columbo was a well-acted genre breaking series, just like Firefly. What made Columbo work was that when only one to three Columbos were made per year, fans waited with anticipation for the next. What would make Firefly even better is that in its genre it supports multiple viewings even better than a mystery series does (and presumably DVD sales would be much greater).

What Josh would need to do this would be a firm committments from (most importantly) Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres and any other cast members. The episodes could be arranged as also a DVD offer (that would be shipped some weeks after its broadcast premiere, similar to what Disney and Halmark do with their broadcast specials) with a commentary track so that fans would think that they were getting something extra in addition for the DVD. I think that Nathan and Gina are key to the series (and it may only be affordable to keep two continuing actors under contract). Assuming that Sci Fi channel would be its location, NBC guest stars could be used episodes. This format could continue not for just years, but for decades.

A latter idea would be to use the miniseries format (which was originally used by Battlestar Gallactica which is now a series). The full cast could be used by these and could develop several arcs. This would be great for fans but would be totally dependent upon the ratings for the last episode. DVD sales would be real reason for such a series. However, without a long-term committment (impossible with such a format) it would be hard to keep the cast beyond one or two of these mini-series.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:46 PM

Both those ideas are great, but just one little thing bugs me.
It's JOSS.
No biggie, I swear to Gob.

Chrisisall

ALLARTICULATE

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:52 PM

New blood here...loving every minute of the show and the BDM...radiating positive vibes throughout the 'verse...
:)

NERDLOVER

Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:18 PM

I wanted the series to come back very badly as well. After watching Serenity, however, I'm actually not so sure. Yes, having a weekly FF fix would be a wonderful thing to look forward to, but having the story done in bug budget, big action format has its own appeal. I too would be horribly disappointed to see the series decline the way Buffy did (it really jumped the shark when it introduced Glory, most annoying villain in the 'verse). And I would like our beloved FF actors become big movie stars... they deserve it after giving life and depth to the characters that mean so much to us. I just have one request--will Mal and Inara kiss? I mean, for real? Finally?!?!

SADLITTLEKING

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by Hartmeister:
A latter idea would be to use the miniseries format (which was originally used by Battlestar Gallactica which is now a series). The full cast could be used by these and could develop several arcs. This would be great for fans but would be totally dependent upon the ratings for the last episode. DVD sales would be real reason for such a series. However, without a long-term committment (impossible with such a format) it would be hard to keep the cast beyond one or two of these mini-series.

I think that would be the best idea for the future of Firefly/Serenity. There'd be more time to develop a story and cram more in. And like you said, they could sell every mini-series on DVD.

I really would like to see Sci-Fi pick up something like this. They generally don't have good original movies and having Firefly/Serenity movies to call their own would be a step up for them.

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