new Joss Whedon interview - Empire On-line

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OLDHAG

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:34 AM

This is a pretty depressing thing to read about "Firefly" but one thing you guys need to realize is ,people do change their minds about things. I would say that "Serenity has been a success. I didn't think that it would be, but looking at the box office numbers after this week and looking at all the people that are going to buy the dvd, Universal or Fox (don't count on Fox though) might ask him to do another movie or continue the show. Money does change peoples minds. SO don't get down about this. Joss is human and gets depressed and excited just like the rest of us. And yes, he does have the capability to change his mind about what he has said in this quote. Don't give up hope yet. We as fans can prove to him that the show or the movie route is worth pursuing again. Please don't get depressed about this, cuz if you guys do then i and everyone else will too. Be optimistic dammit!

Tim Tim Timmy!

FILLIONFLAN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:41 AM

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Originally posted by Scythe404:
True, but look at what happened to Buffy after seven seasons.

Sure, having two thousand hours of our BDH is preferable to six or seven, but also think of quality.

Firefly was Joss' most polished, solid and well done series, but that kind of thing can catch up with you in the long run. No one is superhuman. No one can plan out ten seasons of a show, each as good or better than the last.

I'd rather have three fantastic movies than two or three fantastic seasons and a bunch of flaccid, disappointing ones.

Scythe404, I am right there with you. I'm a fairly new fan (not even two weeks...my gosh, it feels like it's been years already), and my constant thought as I drown in love for the show, the characters, and of course our BDM, has been: "Would I be this much in love if this show had gone five seasons (give or take a season?) Not that I wouldn't LOVE to find out that Joss and his posse of writers COULD sustain this quality and magic for 10 seasons...but I don't know; it is pretty great to have the 14 episodes and the film that we do have. It will always be an interesting "what if", I guess. It amazes me that this show gelled from show 1. X-Files (which I practically worshipped through the end of Season 5) didn't really start to cook until Season 2, IMHO. This show...yeah, Firefly is different.

Me, I'll take whatever more I can get. And be damn happy with what we've already got. As has been pointed out in previous posts, we've already gotten way more than we got with six Star Wars movies as far as quality hour for hour.

ZOE: "It's just, the Captain's so tense..."
WASH: "Of course he's tense. He's awake."

FOLLOWMAL

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:10 AM

"as I drown in love for the show, the characters, and of course our BDM,"

Oh, what a way to say it! What a romantic, accurate way to say it!

I agree.... I'll take what I can get and I'm ever so grateful for what we do have. Don't get me wrong, I want MORE movies AND the tv series back.... but I'll take this wonderful 'verse just the way it is if I have to.

But I don't think I'll have to....

FILLIONFLAN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:24 AM

I hope you're right like you can't believe.

ZOE: "It's just, the Captain's so tense..."
WASH: "Of course he's tense. He's awake."

DANTHEMAN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:48 AM

Quote:
True, but look at what happened to Buffy after seven seasons.

Selective memory? Buffy got only better as it went on. Season 3 was great. Season 4 was even better. Season 5 was some of the best TV I have ever seen. I've been bummed for 6 months after the show ended, but at least everyone knew it was coming and people had some closure.

We should only be so lucky to have 3 seasons of Firefly, talk about 7!

Thanks to Serenity, at least we had some closure to the show.

All we can hope for now is for Joss to have so much success that he can name his own terms. If he is able to do that, maybe he will resurrect the series. So far with Serenity, it is strike 2. BTVS the movie bombed. Serenity bombed. Here's hoping that Wonder Woman will be his breakthrough.

EMBERS

Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:

All we can hope for now is for Joss to have so much success that he can name his own terms. If he is able to do that, maybe he will resurrect the series. So far with Serenity, it is strike 2. BTVS the movie bombed. Serenity bombed. Here's hoping that Wonder Woman will be his breakthrough.

hold up there cowboy...
Joss did NOT make the Buffy movie, he wrote a script which was not actually followed, the studio got a director who wanted to make a campy/slapstick comedy, which is NOT what Joss Whedon wrote
AND Donald Sutherland decided to not bother to learn any of the lines that Joss wrote, but instead ad libbed his way through the movie.
So PLEASE do not lay that on Joss' head.

AND Serenity did NOT bomb,
it was not a big blockbuster success, but it got great reviews, and it has done about as well as most of the other movies that have come out this Fall (obviously it has been a depressed movie box office, but that is not Joss' fault).

Frankly I think Universal will have no trouble making a profit on Serenity in the long run,
and they are very happy to be doing business with him since they have already thrown money at him to make his script for Goners into a film for them.

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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse!

OLDHAG

Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:17 AM

Actually, Buffy fourth is probably one of the worst seasons in the series. Season 3 is better by leaps and bounds. And, as the show went on, Buffy became rather bitchy.

Buffy is a great show but, it had it's major flaws. Angel was my favorite by the end of both of the Seasons. But to cap those all off, Firefly has the best 13 episode line-up i've ever seen of any show, period.

"Mighty fine Shindig"
Tim Tim Timmy!

CERES

Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:59 AM

It makes sense that Joss would be hoping to make a sequel to Serenity as the actors have already agreed to do it. I'd love another season or ten of Firefly but I guess it'd be too difficult to get everyone together for that length of time. If I'm proved wrong though I'll be really happy.

GROUNDED

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:17 AM

Hasn't it been discussed many, many times on here before that a return to TV was nigh on impossible, barring some sort of spinoff? I'm surprised people are getting depressed about this now when it's been repeated, and by Joss himself no less, plenty of times in the past.

MSCKAREN

Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:21 PM

I think the board has gained a lot of new members since the movie came out. Like one poster said - two weeks...

Oh, and welcome to you guys! Nice to see the positive energy.

I'm one of those HARD BELIEVERS. I KNOW there will be more stories! I expect the next one to come in movie form (big screen, DVD or TV miniseries all fine with me). At the very least, I KNOW Joss will get some of these stories out of his head through comics like the prequels to Serenity and what he did with "Fray".

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