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UPDATED: Saturday, October 29, 2005 06:13
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Friday, October 21, 2005 4:34 AM

I happen to like Deep Impact, thank you very much.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, October 21, 2005 6:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:

We are freaks. I don't mean that in a bad way, but think about it. Our tastes do not follow the main stream, our imaginations seem to be more highly developed, we won't settle for same-old-same-old. Creativity, invention, and thought MUST be in our entertainment fare. And there just aren't enough of us.

Look at all those terrible movies that have made 100-200 million dollars. Hitch? Deep Impact? Crocodile Dundee II? Total CRAP! Yet people went in droves to these movies.

There are a lot of people who wouldn't know good if it bit them in their ass. The people who recognize good character development and a great story line are rare.

There aren't nearly enough of us to generate the numbers the Hollywood execs want to see. I guess we are basically humped.

~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."


Greetings fellow freaks!
Here's my theory of how it works.
It's a causality loop, designed to keep us all asleep and in line.
Television networks want to get the largest possible amount of dough from the advertisers.
In order for that to happen, they have to have the largest number of people watching their shows.
The 'largest number' of people is not so smart as a smaller number of people.
Add to this, they don't want to offend anyone. Well, anyone with lots of money anyway- like the advertisers, or big groups who might organize to boycott their shows, or get quoted on the news saying for example "the religion of X doesn't like the show 'Tranquility'".
So.....
they can't have the shows being too smart, or they'll alienate the not so smart people.
So.....
they put little things in the stupid shows to make you feel smarter than the writers; like massive amounts of foreshadowing, and they write very easy jokes with very trendy language, that you can talk about with the people at work tomorrow, (or show people eating bugs to prove they aren't scared of anything- except not winning that $50,000)
so you never ever talk about anything real.
And.....
they use other tricks to try and make us believe that it's much better not to be so smart, or to even want to think about things by trying to make thinking people out to be geeks and freaks,
So everyone will lie down on the sofa and watch their stupid shows, and eat Fruity Oaty bars.
Repeat loop until dead.

If you can get people to believe that being pretty is more important than thinking, you create people who only care what others think.

And of course it's much better to be pretty (and spend lots of money on products to increase your level of pretty) than to be able to think for yourself, because people who think for themselves might decide Fruity Oaty bars taste like crap, and maybe they'd rather eat raisins.

Goes for movies too: if it takes an effort to understand it, that scares people. What if they don't get it? That would make them losers. Is anybody famous and pretty in it? If not it can't be any good.

It really bugs me that the people who decide choose stupidity more often than not. It makes me nuts at least once, for a minute, most days.

I go to think happy thoughts now about Serenity becomming a giant hit that wakes people from their torpor to demand integrity from pop culture. I think there are more than enough of us, there are just a lot of very sleepy people out there.


Keep flyin'
the Ghandi kissing socialist

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Friday, October 21, 2005 1:34 PM

Uh.. I loved Deep Impact!

"Jesus saves, everyone else takes damage" -tee shirt some girl was wearing at Megacon.

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Friday, October 21, 2005 2:59 PM

"Uh.. I loved Deep Impact!"

Hee he hee...we all have our moments. I happen to love "Dude, Where's My Car?"



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Friday, October 21, 2005 3:27 PM

"Deep Impact" may not be "Casablanca", but next to "Armageddon" it's high art.


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Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:40 AM

agreed, Doncoat!

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by liminalosity:

Television networks want to get the largest possible amount of dough from the advertisers.
In order for that to happen, they have to have the largest number of people watching their shows.


Lowest. Common. Denominator.

*sigh*

Let's just be grateful we live in a time where we can come together, share our common joy, and even create a "niche" market worthy of further investment.

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Ain't. We. Just.

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:42 AM

Bump.

I thought this was so spot on I bumped it again.

I just started re-watching Bebop, awaiting the return of my firefly DVDs has prompted space-western withdrawal.

Lots of people loved Dude where's my car. I wasn't one of them, but that's okay. But it doesn't make it high art. I didn't see Deep Impact or Armageddon, but that was what my brother said about them. (ie. DI was high art compared to A)

I think there are other things. Joss addiction takes several viewings to take hold. I saw maybe three random buffy eps over a period of many years without getting hooked. It wasn't until I was stranded with it.

Whoa!

I just had a great idea for Joss.

He should do a miniseries. It would be perfect. A miniseries forces people to watch the whole thing. I figure four buffies addicted me, so here it is, the ultimate Firefly-booster plan:

there was a series 14/15 eps, and a movie.

Now there's a 6 month story gap

Big Damn Heros - a 4 part miniseries.

4 x 1:30 (2 hours each with ads)

Wash and Book can be ressurected for this because the story will be the events between the end of the show, and the movie.

Big budget, maybe some draws to get people in, watching, one time characters, so if richard dean anderson is some alliance general, and then run ads to that effect during stargate, SG-1 fans will watch it. But no George Clooney, I mean I think he's quite good, many may disagree, but they didn't see Oh Brother Where Art Thous. Or maybe they did. Who cares, anyway, ER fans probably wouldn't like the show anyway. I digress.

They point it, you get a bunch of Sci-fi fans to sit down and watch what amounts to 6 hours of Joss. After that they'll be hooked, and they'll all line up for the second season of regular firefly eps which could be set after the movie, and start in fall, or next jan.

In short, I think it's a workable plan

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:43 AM

Bump.

I thought this was so spot on I bumped it again.

I just started re-watching Bebop, awaiting the return of my firefly DVDs has prompted space-western withdrawal.

Lots of people loved Dude where's my car. I wasn't one of them, but that's okay. But it doesn't make it high art. I didn't see Deep Impact or Armageddon, but that was what my brother said about them. (ie. DI was high art compared to A)

I think there are other things. Joss addiction takes several viewings to take hold. I saw maybe three random buffy eps over a period of many years without getting hooked. It wasn't until I was stranded with it.

Whoa!

I just had a great idea for Joss.

He should do a miniseries. It would be perfect. A miniseries forces people to watch the whole thing. I figure four buffies addicted me, so here it is, the ultimate Firefly-booster plan:

there was a series 14/15 eps, and a movie.

Now there's a 6 month story gap

Big Damn Heros - a 4 part miniseries.

4 x 1:30 (2 hours each with ads)

Wash and Book can be ressurected for this because the story will be the events between the end of the show, and the movie.

Big budget, maybe some draws to get people in, watching, one time characters, so if richard dean anderson is some alliance general, and then run ads to that effect during stargate, SG-1 fans will watch it. But no George Clooney, I mean I think he's quite good, many may disagree, but they didn't see Oh Brother Where Art Thous. Or maybe they did. Who cares, anyway, ER fans probably wouldn't like the show anyway. I digress.

They point it, you get a bunch of Sci-fi fans to sit down and watch what amounts to 6 hours of Joss. After that they'll be hooked, and they'll all line up for the second season of regular firefly eps which could be set after the movie, and start in fall, or next jan.

In short, I think it's a workable plan

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:50 AM

The networks are just afraid to take risks anymore and only churn out generic crap. Half of the shows canceled by fox over the last 5 years were smart, witty, quirky, original, and critically acclaimed, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Brimstone, Firefly, John Doe, Wonderfalls, etc.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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