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Don't worry, it is NOT true (Comics, TV Series, and Movie spoilers!)

POSTED BY: JavidRho
UPDATED: Friday, October 28, 2005 20:35
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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:12 PM

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Originally posted by SerenityPunk:
OK ive finally stopped laughing at being called a little kid.

Here am I, 29 years old, with 2 children, own house, car and life. Able to differentiate between a movie and real life, Able to accept that sometime people die in films, even my favorite characters (and yes mr you are all wash haters) Wash IS my favorite) who i cried for and mourned for. Then I got a hug, I dried my tears, I had a vodka, and I went back to real life, thats the thing most of us live in.

And yet im a kid. That seem right to you

Absolutely have an opinion and a theory of your own and share it, but please be mature enough to accept that not everone will agree, accept it with grace and dignity, not stamp your feet and hurl insults because you didn't get the response you wanted.

That something my 8 year old son would do, because he dosnt understand the reasoning of opinion just yet.

Your theory although fantastically fanciful, is full of holes. it would make a great fic.



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I have to completely agree here. I have seen a lot of forums turn into nothing but angry and bashing rants when it wasn't necessary. There have been a few posts here that have done that and not everyone is being mature. I will not say I'm old and know better, I'm only 20 but I know to at least let others have their opinions and let that be.

The ideas presented do have a bit of a plot hole in them but that is what makes things like this so much fun. People can take turns trying to figure out how to fill the holes. I liked Wash as much as anyone probably (though Simon is my favorite next to Kaylee). He may be dead, whether or not he stays that way is up to Joss and of course to $$$ for sequels, series, books, comics, games, etc... Everyone should take their time to mourn and move on for now and then, just maybe laugh it all off if Wash returns.

Being signed on for a job does not mean you will get it, for example an application for employment doesn't guarentee you'll get the job. Getting the job doesn't mean you'll stay or keep it long. Nothing in life is guarenteed other than birth and death, and not even that is all guarenteed either. So lets all take a deep breath and smile for the others.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:12 PM

Ok, I need to get this out. Note: This is just adding on to what other people have already said, and I agree with them.

Wash is dead. It was sad, I cried all 3 times I saw it because I'm really emotional like that, but I can sit here and remember his character and smile that I was lucky enough to be able to watch him on both the small and big screens up until is tragic death. But wishing and hoping isn't going to bring him back.

Now I'm going to ignore all the "insults" lashed out at some good people because I don't want to get started on that. What I will say is that though your idea, JavidRho, would be interesting and good for a fanfic story, its very unlikely that it will ever happen in this 'verse and you shouldn't be getting mad at people who are just telling you exactly that. It's not going to happen in the sequel. Joss isn't that stupid, nor has he ever been really. This is not the Buffy/Angelverse and people don't come back to life.

That said, its best to leave what happened in the movie in the movie and if there are sequels, great! But the only Wash scenes we're gonna get now is flashbacks or dreams.

Mal: Define interesting.
Wash: Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:46 PM

It is sad... he was a great character. Flashbacks won't be enough, but they may well be all we'll ever get.

Anything else is indeed what fanfic is for



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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:51 PM

Here's a problem with posting, emails, letters, or anything in print...you can't here people's voices. What might be interpretted as mean might just be because you are reading it with an agry voice in your head. I sent an email to person I didn't know one time who was sending me forwars (I hate forwards because they fill up my email with stuff I don't care to read) and I wrote "I don't know who you are so please quite forwarding messages to me." He/she emailed me back saying there was no reason to be rude and that I shouldn't get angry. Well I wasn't either rude or angry, but obviously the voice he/she used in reading my email was a very angry one. So when reading posts remeber that. Try to read them in a normal voice and see if it sounds mean. Don't just respond with unquestionale meaness (like name-calling etc.).

By the way in Angel characters have come back to life and then died again. You never know...and thats whats cool.

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RAE
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:54 PM

Not to add fuel to the fire, but.... I've only seen the movie once, and was honestly too stunned and shock when Wash died to see anything but my favorite BDH with a spike through his chest. However, my son went a second time, and said he specifically watched for that scene. He said in the 2nd viewing, it looked like the spike was more toward the shoulder area than the chest. Anyone else see that? Or was he being overly hopeful?

I, for one, would love to have Wash back, any way that Joss can bring him back. I have faith that if he does bring him back, Joss will do so in a believable manner. I don't expect him to be living and breathing, but would love for it to happen. I fear, tho, that it will be in flashbacks, or maybe River "seeing" him still onboard, maybe as a ghost or something.

Rae

btw, knowing how Mal feels about his crew, I do not think it would be unreasonable for Wash to have been captured, possibly nearly dead, and used as a hostage to capture River. We all know, if any of the crew fell into enemy hands, they would all risk their lives to rescue them.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by Early:
By the way in Angel characters have come back to life and then died again. You never know...and thats whats cool.



Of course, the Angel/Buffy-Verse has recourse to magic and Higher Powers... in Firefly/Serenity, that's a long wait for a train don't come.



"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."
"Come a day there won't be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all..."
I know the secret.
http://www.theshadowdepository.co.uk/index.htm

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:16 PM

wow, i've just read all the postings on this topic, and all the browncoats beating on each other was all very dramatic. wow. for what it's worth, i'm glad that wash's death has such a polarizing impact on us viewers/fans/browncoats. stuff like that don't happen too often in movies, at least for me.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by RelFexive:
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Originally posted by Early:
By the way in Angel characters have come back to life and then died again. You never know...and thats whats cool.



Of course, the Angel/Buffy-Verse has recourse to magic and Higher Powers... in Firefly/Serenity, that's a long wait for a train don't come.




True, and don't misunderstand...I think Wash is dead.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:24 PM

i wish this was true

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:28 PM

the "More toward the shoulder" theory may be true. But it's my belief that Wash is no longer in the land of the living, there's the whole hologram on top of the toomstone thing at the end of "Serenity".
This may dissapoint some, and don't get me wrong, when I first saw "The Train Job" Wash was the one character that I instantly identified with, I loved the wash angle of the series.
However, Your theory about the "Blue Hands" men finding wash and bringing him back also seems believable. I'm just not sure what to think. If there is a sequel, I would love to find out more about the fate of the dearly beloved Wash.

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