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POSTED BY: Howard
UPDATED: Thursday, October 27, 2005 22:50
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Lord of the Rings is a special case, each extended version was essentially 2 films. One movie and one making of movie. But the point is, that's three movies. HDDVD lets you put all that one on disk but even then you've still only filled 1/10th of the available space. Hundreds of DVDs are released every year. What about non-epic movies, what are they going to do with it?
They'll add a bajillion more commentaries, games, music videos, and fan tributes, or more dubs and subtitle tracks. Current DVDs have these things all the time, but even with high-quality compression tech, you can only fit so much on a 4.7 GB disc (for instance, DVD programming allows for up to eight audio tracks and 32 subtitle tracks on the same video, but even big-name international releases tend to have one, two or three audio tracks, about the same in subtitle tracks, and maybe a commentary track or two, and a few other disc extras. Now, in America about a bajillion languages are studied or spoken naturally by immigrants and families of immigrants... you'd think that including as many subtitle and/or dub tracks as possible would be benficial, but you almost never see the German dubs - damn near everything gets dubbed into German, trust me - on North American DVDs, even when the German dub is produced in time for it such as when its theatrical release coincides with the original American one). You'd be surprised how much space good-quality video takes up. Most standard DVD format DVD-R or DVD-RW discs are labeled as being for "up to two hours of [high-quality/low-compression] video". You can fit much more nowadays, but unless you've got some seriously shiny tech (which you can apparently get for "only" a few hundred dollars on the low end), you're not going to be able to fit very much.
As someone who hopes to someday get into filmmaking and is crazy for DVD extras, I can assure you, if there were a consumer-friendly, widely-adopted disc format that would allow more room for other audio or subtitle tracks and more extras, I would jump right on it if I could. Note I say "consumer friedly" and "widely adopted", which I cannot personally say that any format is until it's been introduced and time-tested in the real world's consumer culture.
But are you kidding? You could include games and a bajilliion audio commentaries and all sorts of neat things in anamorphic widescreen with a whole bunch of audio and sub tracks. You could even include footage of premieres, or of the orchestra recording the movie score, or audition tapes (like the one for Alan Tudyk on the Firefly box set), more featturettes... would it take a bit longer? Yes. But is it probably worth it to create an uber-enhanced special edition for the fans? If you care that much about your fans and/or your fans' wallets it is.
I'm reserving judgement until I've seen Wired look into this (if they have before now, I haven't seen it, just basic updates on the state of both techs), or some other well-established news group, TIME magazine maybe. Call me a wary cynic or call me an optimist, but I don't think they'd be that stupid, or that such stupidity would be all that successful at least. I'll decide what's what when I've got verifiable proof beyond the rants of a few people on the net that this is how it's going to be, rather than how the studios hope it'll be.
-Runa27
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No the system will require clearance to use
it or will not activated unless the phone line
connection/modem or whatever is sensed as active.
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When you buy a PC in order to be able to
use it you have to register with MICROSOFT
if not you cannot go on line and do many other
functions. This is the real world not some
navy boy fantasy land.
Be careful who you call stupid Mr.
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One of the worst aspects of current DVD
is the sound. When we went from LASERDISC
to DVD we lost PCM sound on movies.
BLU-RAY will have MLP capable of decoding
even higher than CD.
What do you think "renewable security"
means when the NEWS CORP/FOX executive
uses that term regard BLU-RAY anti-piracy?
The control coding can only be renewable
if it is constantly updated and that means
a phone-line conncection with the new form
of region coding being off-disc.
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sorry i live in a fanatasy land where i build my own computers and don't buy crap computers where I pay to much for a crappy operating system, where i can't do anything fun w/o it
not to say i don't use it... i just don't pay to much..,
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"It's not that there HAS to be a sequel. It's just that I've got so many IDEAS..."-Joss Whedon
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"It's not that there HAS to be a sequel. It's just that I've got so many IDEAS..."-Joss Whedon
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That is all fine but I am talking about
what happens when the average person brings
home a PC from a store.
Also scroll back and see what I wrote about
SKY receivers in the UK.
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You'd be surprised how much space good-quality video takes up
This has been said to me a few times on this thread so I'd just like to clear something up. I am a media student working on his own amatuer films, I have some experience decoding and encoding to DVD and I know how much quality is lost for space reasons. I am a new technology and movie obsessive, before DVD I owned about 100 videos, I now own over 400 DVDs many of which are making-of's and movie making documentaries. I will buy a DVD specifically for the special features as often as I'll buy if for the movie. But I still don't plan on upgrading.
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But are you kidding? You could include games and a bajilliion audio commentaries and all sorts of neat things in anamorphic widescreen with a whole bunch of audio and sub tracks.
I'm not doubting the possibilities of HD, I doubt people are going to rush out and buy HD on the promise of 'DVD with more'. Unless it's cool stuff like 'crazy hobo' commentary, 'Bruce Campbell as Elvis' commentary or 'Jack Thomson tells you why this film is evil' commentary.
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You could even include footage of premieres, or of the orchestra recording the movie score, or audition tapes (like the one for Alan Tudyk on the Firefly box set), more featturettes...
Which would be nice but aren't going to change the way we view movies in the way DVD did. People bought DVD because they were so different, because of the promise of things they couldn't do with their video players, freeze-frame, zoom, skipping, special features, commentaries. The new selling point seems to be DVD but better. Why would Joe public, a guy who has little to no interest in hearing 'Best Boy commentary', buy it when DVDs look and sound exactly the same on their standard old TV set?
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When you buy a PC in order to be able to
use it you have to register with MICROSOFT
if not you cannot go on line and do many other
functions. This is the real world not some
navy boy fantasy land.
Be careful who you call stupid Mr.
Let's see, the last time I registered a Windows product was oh....say....NEVER. When that window comes up, I just say "Later" and never get back to it. And if you don't believe me, then I must be sending my thoughts out over the net instead of typing on a computer.
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H.L. Mencken
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Hi. My name is Justin. I work for the Geek Squad, y'know, the computer guys over at Best Buy? Part of the duties we perform is what is called a New Computer Setup. That's where we click through all the little things you have to do to get a computer from start-up to Windows as normal. Not once have we ever had to enter the customer's personal information to get Windows XP OR the internet to work. How do I know this? because we are able to run windows updates WITHOUT registering Windows. Activate, yes. But again, all that requires is a valid product key. NOT your name, address, phone number etc. But that's here in the US. Don't know about Outer Retardia where you live.
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