Don't worry, it is NOT true (Comics, TV Series, and Movie spoilers!)
POSTED BY: JavidRho
UPDATED: Friday, October 28, 2005 20:35
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1) Alan is signed for two more movies.
Could literally mean anything. Flashbacks even.
2) In the comics, Joss brought Agent Dobson back from the "dead" (killed in the pilot episode of the TV series) simply by saying that he was left for dead, but didn't actually die (even though mal shot him in the head!)
A head shot is not a definate killer. People can often survive from being shot in the head.
There was once a man who had a metal pole go straight through his skull and brain, and lived to tell the tale.
Wash had a huge metal pole go straight through his heart.
3) We never saw Wash's body or any sign of a grave (only the headstone).
He looked pretty dead at the end of that scene.
4) We know internal medicine is quite advanced in this version of the future (see "the Message" episode as well as point 2 above) so a big stake through the chest would not automatically mean death (as long as someone tended to him within a few minutes - after the crew abandoned the ship)
It's not that advanced... It would take most of wash's major organs being replaced within two-four minutes of the injury. It's stretching the bounds of believabillity somewhat.
5) If Mal and Zoë came back and found Wash's body missing, they would have assumed that the Reavers snatched it and might not tell the others (no need to have their last thoughts of Wash being eaten by cannibals, right?).
Reavers were all chasing the crew. Thats what they do. After chasing the crew, they were all dead.
6) Also, in the comics, we see that the Blue Sun agents are still looking for River, and seem to operate outside of Alliance control. They may want her for other things that we still do not know about. A hostage like Wash would make excellent "bait" for luring her in.
I doesn't seem like a strong enough reason for them to expend so many resources on bring Wash 'back from the dead', even if they could.
Beyond that, how did they know where his body was, how did they get past the battle, what were they doing there (the Operative took over the search for them).
Why didn't they abduct Inara when she was away from the crew?
Just an alternative viewpoint.
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Quote:Yes. But thats what being the writer means. He can do ANYTHING he wants.
Originally posted by JavidRho:
My point in making this post is that Joss CAN easily bring Wash back alive if he chooses to.
He can have Jayne sprout wings and become a fairy if he wants.
And I'll place more money on that happening in a sequel (if there is one) than Wash coming back from the dead.
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I would SO pay to see Jayne sprout wings and become a fairy!!! 
I can just see it: Serenity 2: Fairy Nuff
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Originally posted by JavidRho:
First off, don't be such a flamer! Did I say something to personally offend you? Your first reply was cryptic, and not a real response at all (read it again if you disagree).
PR didn't flame you.
And
What exactly does the length of time someone's been posting here got to do with anything?
That's kids stuff...
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3) We never saw Wash's body or any sign of a grave (only the headstone).
So a headstone isn't a sign of a grave?
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Originally posted by JavidRho:
PsychicRiver:
First off, don't be such a flamer! Did I say something to personally offend you? Your first reply was cryptic, and not a real response at all (read it again if you disagree).
If you think some light sarcasm is flaming, you really don't know what flaming is.
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Second: I've been posting here a lot longer than you have, so cut me some slack, will you?
I fail to see the relevance. The 'old' can be as stu-- wrong as the 'young'.
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Originally posted by JavidRho:
So, tell us all why Wash HAS to be dead? I think Joss left plenty of open doors for bringing him back if he wants to. He didn't leave 'clues" he left "open doors" (like not showing the body).
So the dead guy in the chair wasn't enough of a body for you?
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Originally posted by JavidRho:
The pole that went through his chest was not that big (I watched for that in my several viewings) so taking out a lung was the most probable damage, but that would be easier to recover from than a bullet in the brain (Dobson).
It's unlikely Dobson actually got a bullet in the brain, I mean really *in* it. If it hit him in the eye, it could've lodged there rather than going further. Believe me, really weird things happen with bullets and bodies sometimes.
A foot thick spike through the chest impacts on the lungs and the primary veins/arteries to/from the heart. That's the powerplant for the body right there... one little thing goes wrong and everything stops. Such a slender thread... as easily broken by a frickin' great spike there as a bullet in the head.
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Originally posted by JavidRho:
Again, for those refusing to read correctly, I think it is easy to bring Wash back in the flesh (no flashbacks) - if Joss does it (or not) is his decision. it CAn be done...
Again with the fairy comment. Can, yes. Without breaking the setting and his credibility and our love of both? Not so much.
Mourn with the rest of us. Then keep flyin'.
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Hmm, considering the fact that no one has mentioned this, I think I'm the only person who interpreted this this way. I've only seen the movie once, so hopefully when I see it again this weekend, I will be able to take a closer look. I had thought that those little packets strapped to the rocket-thing at the end, at the tombstone part, were some ash, as in cremation. Aparently I misinterpreted it?
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I believe the rocket has little bits of paper stuck to it, each bearing a message of some kind from those that wrote them, namely the rest of the crew. It then gets launched up into the sky and explodes in a blaze of fire.
Seems appropriate both for Wash and as a chinese-type tradition. Couldn't say for sure about the chinese bit, but that's what I thought.
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