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Don't worry, it is NOT true (Comics, TV Series, and Movie spoilers!)

POSTED BY: JavidRho
UPDATED: Friday, October 28, 2005 20:35
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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:20 PM

(Comics, TV Series, and Movie spoilers ahead)

Okay - calm down everyone.

>>> Wash is not dead! <<<

Why do I believe this? Here are the clues (taken from the TV series, comics, and movie):

1) Alan is signed for two more movies.

2) In the comics, Joss brought Agent Dobson back from the "dead" (killed in the pilot episode of the TV series) simply by saying that he was left for dead, but didn't actually die (even though mal shot him in the head!)

3) We never saw Wash's body or any sign of a grave (only the headstone).

4) We know internal medicine is quite advanced in this version of the future (see "the Message" episode as well as point 2 above) so a big stake through the chest would not automatically mean death (as long as someone tended to him within a few minutes - after the crew abandoned the ship)

5) If Mal and Zoë came back and found Wash's body missing, they would have assumed that the Reavers snatched it and might not tell the others (no need to have their last thoughts of Wash being eaten by cannibals, right?).

6) Also, in the comics, we see that the Blue Sun agents are still looking for River, and seem to operate outside of Alliance control. They may want her for other things that we still do not know about. A hostage like Wash would make excellent "bait" for luring her in.

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Now having said all this, it is not a far stretch to guess that a couple of "Blue Gloves" (or "Blue Suits" as we see in the comics) dropped by during the battle and snatched up Wash and whisked him away for medical treatment. When Mal and Zoë went back inside Serenity, they assumed that he was taken by the Reavers, so they didn't tell anyone else. When they buried Book and Mr. Universe, they added a tombstone for Wash, because they truly believed that he was gone.

But he is not!

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:24 PM

I'm livin in a cuckoo clock.

God almighty.

What film were you watching?!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:25 PM

Good theories...excpet that the two Blue Sun agents are DEAD by the end of the comic. That's why the Alliance sends the Operative. Wash scrapes them off the ship at the end of issue three and there is a nice communication between the Alliance and the Operative discussing their failure. Re-read.

ARE YOU SURE HE SIGNED FOR 2 MORE MOVIES? Where's your evidence? What article? That would definitely ease some minds.

Adam

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:28 PM

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:28 PM

I wouldn't do too much easing of minds. Even if he is signed - he might only be in some flashbacks. Or, play a different character.



See how I'm not punching him, I think I've grown!

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:29 PM

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...it is not a far stretch to guess that a couple of "Blue Gloves" (or "Blue Suits" as we see in the comics) dropped by during the battle and snatched up Wash and whisked him away for medical treatment


That seems like kind of a stretch to me. I didn't really get the impression that ANYONE could just "drop by" in middle fo that full-on Reaver attack.

Also, I think the fact that Alan Tudyk was signed for 2 more movies only means that if they want him he has to do it, not that they have to use him if they make more movies.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:30 PM

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:35 PM

Yes, that's right everyone.

This post was written on a boat floating on a certain river in Eygpt.


1) So?

2) Okay.

3) Guess not.

4) Riiight.

5) Remember the scene at the beginning, in the town on Lilac? Mal shoots the guy dead and the Reavers drop the body. And later, when they are being chased on the Mule, and River says "they want us alive when they eat us"? They aren't interested in corpses, save for decoration. And why bother trying to get that particular corpse off a big nasty spike when there's live flesh running around to be raped/eaten/sewn into clothing? Hence, no disappearing body.

6) The comic shows us that this particular pair of "contractors" (as the voice at the end calls them) are dead. There may be more, but by that time the job had reassigned to the Operative.


So you're saying two more just happened to show up by random luck or as part of some nefarious plan, just to kidnap and heal Serenity's pilot for.... what exactly? To make him one of them? Use his amazing knowledge of how to fly Serenity against them... how exactly?







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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:35 PM

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Originally posted by JavidRho:
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Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
I'm livin in a cuckoo clock.

God almighty.

What film were you watching?!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."



Please elaborate, rather than be so cryptic.

Wash is dead. DEAD.

Totally dead. (So not just a little dead then?)

He's gone. He won't be coming back to life. This is the Firefly verse. This isn't Buffy. This is supposed to a realistic vision of the future.

Joss was making it pretty obvious that Wash was dead. For Jimbo sake, he's got a hole through his chest that I could put my whole arm through.

He's dead. Okay? Not coming back. That was the hidden cryptic meaning (ooh) in my post.

Yes, he is apparently signed for sequels. But I don't doubt that they will be flashbacks...or some form of prequel.

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."

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Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:38 PM

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