Firefly Virtual Season 2 ideas

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THEACCOLADE

Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:04 PM

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I see your idea, to flesh out a good season 2 is should have seeds of some ideas for season 3, so the story has continuity.

Exactly. I think we could do both.

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Also, the fact that good shows like firefly, family, farscape... etc. are canceled and it takes fan based marketing to get it going again, tells me the sad state tv is in.
I dream of the day when fox, nbc, cbs, and abc are not running the show.

no kidding. it really boggels the mind. Someday we'll take over and all will be right with the world. It is encouraging though that fans have made as big of an impact as they have, i.e. The Peacekeeper Wars and Serenity, it's cool to know we can change things, even if it's a long time comming.

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Right!...Because teenage pranks are FUN when you're about to die!

EXODUS2310

Monday, October 24, 2005 7:40 AM

As for releasing the episodes, you could just make a website and a seperate forum (proboards is good) and release them there.

TRAKEN

Monday, October 24, 2005 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by TheAccolade:
no kidding. it really boggels the mind. Someday we'll take over and all will be right with the world. It is encouraging though that fans have made as big of an impact as they have, i.e. The Peacekeeper Wars and Serenity, it's cool to know we can change things, even if it's a long time comming.

I know but something about having spend time being a movie/tv promoter in my spare time makes me upset.I mean NMJ.
I have enough work to do trying to get through my senior year of engineering.

I'm looking foward to when the internet mafias will open up enough bandwidth for internet broadcast "tv". MAke tv distribution much cheaper then shows can have a longer time to prove themselves. Maybe on demand tv free.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:10 PM

How about a comic or animated format?
It would give something 'visual' fit in with the style (we've already got comics) and shouldn't be too hard todo with all the talented folks around here.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you Beeeer Milkshakes!
Even though I might, even though I try,
I can't

GWEK

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:40 PM

So, to clarify... What you're looking to do is spec out what the Miranda-Reaver-Operative story arc could have been if Whedon had done it as a 22 episode story arc (that's the standard) rather than a 2 hour movie?

I'm down with that, but want to make sure I'm on the right page here.

If we're going to do this right, we need to first consider the end of season 1.

Including the two part pilot, we have 15 out of 22 episodes for season 1.

The comic book miniseries from Dark Horse is clearly the season 1 finale (and, therefore, should be required reading for any serious attempt to figure out how season 2 would've played out). It shows us how Book and Inara leave the ship (GREAT scenes both), as well as tying up a few other story arcs.

If we assume that would have been 2 hours, that brings us to 17/22 season 1 episodes. I don't think the 5 "missing" episodes would have been integral to the plot (in fact, the miniseries implies that it's been "business as usual" for a while), except perhaps, to introduce Haven so we have a reason for Book to go there when he leaves the ship.

My thoughts on Season Two include the following:

1) Season 1 is pretty much "the year they work for Badger." Season 2 would then be "the year they work for Mingo and Fanty."

2) Given the way JW does things, we wouldn't see more than the briefest hints of the overall year story arc until "act 2" (around episode 8 or 9), so the major stuff (such as the Reavers and the Operative) probably wouldn't be introduced until then (at the earliest).

3) I could see the overall arc of the first act (roughly episodes 1-8) going something like this: Having cut ties with Badger, Mal now tries to work for Mingo and Fanty. But Mal and his crew, they're trouble, so first they're going to need to prove themselves with a few big jobs. We might even get recurring opposition in the form of another crew that works for M&F (possibly even the crazy folks from the first issue of the comic).

4) Throughout this, the crew begins to use Haven as, well, a haven. During the first season, Serenity is their home, but they start to develop a second home. It's also a good way to keep Book as a recurring cast member.

I could even see story arcs where one or more of the crew leaves for a little while. Say, for example, there were some sort of outbreak on Haven, leading to Simon volunteering to stay there for 2 or 3 episodes.

Maybe there's even someone there to make a Simon-Kaylee-??? triangle(because if those two aren't going to hook up until the finale, SOMETHING needs to be done to spice things up).

Clearly, though, we have to care about the folks of Haven and see that Mal and crew care about them, so when the Operative's men slaughter lay waste to the place in act 3, it means something.

5) I could easily see Inara being largley absent from the series for the first act. I can also see her being attracted to the Operative. He represents everything that Mal isn't, which is what she SHOULD be attracted to.

I suspect that, had the story been done as a series, we'd've had 5 episodes where the Operative is just hanging out with Inara, having political and philosophical discussions so that she (and we) can see just what an intelligent, clever man he is.

6) Ideally, THAT is how I'd've liked to have been introduced to the Operative, by the way. Consider this:

We first see him as a client of Inara's. Although it's a job, she's clearly attracted to him because he's so intelligent, insightful, etc.

It's only after we get used to the idea of him as potential competition for Mal in a romantic sense that we see a version of the opening of the movie and realize exactly who he is.

And then we realize exactly how clever he is and how carefully he's been weaving his web, and preparing to ensnare the crew of Serenity. He becomes chillingly efficient, but, to Inara, still not entirely unattractive, since he has the conviction that Mal seems to lack...

7) The whole Miranda/River-goes-crazy-due-to-subliminals would've taken a lot longer to play out: a line h

GWEK

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:41 PM

Oh, by the way, in case it isn't obvious, I'm clearly interested in the idea. :)

LIMINALOSITY

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:10 PM

I'm likin' this idea very much.

I would like to apply for the position of virtual costume designer. Please ask your people to call my people, anytime.

If I'm gonna wear a dress, I'd want something with some slink.

BRETTYBOY

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:52 PM

Wow this is a great idea. I am in, in any capacity I can be. If I have a vote though I would say we should continue the story from the end of the movie. But I am onboard with what ever direction we go. Also I wanna apply for virtual grip.

EXODUS2310

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:47 PM

Who is actually in charge of this virtual season since the topic starter hasnt replied yet....

THEACCOLADE

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:54 AM

Wonderful ideas!! Thanks for posting!!! I thought I'd eat up some board space and reply...

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1) Season 1 is pretty much "the year they work for Badger." Season 2 would then be "the year they work for Mingo and Fanty."

Exactly. This gives us plenty of places to go and trouble to get into while we are setting up the rest of the story arc. So would the final job (where the Reavers atack) come somewhere in the middle (8 or 9) of the season?

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2) Given the way JW does things, we wouldn't see more than the briefest hints of the overall year story arc until "act 2" (around episode 8 or 9), so the major stuff (such as the Reavers and the Operative) probably wouldn't be introduced until then (at the earliest).

:) I guess this answers the above question...duh...

3) I could see the overall arc of the first act (roughly episodes 1-8) going something like this: Having cut ties with Badger, Mal now tries to work for Mingo and Fanty. But Mal and his crew, they're trouble, so first they're going to need to prove themselves with a few big jobs. We might even get recurring opposition in the form of another crew that works for M&F (possibly even the crazy folks from the first issue of the comic).

I think this would be a great way to start writing too because it would give us a chance to do more "solo" writing. A chance to get the feel for format and story without having to worry so much about making sure that the time line and story arc are going in the right place. A bit like having training wheels if you will.

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4) Throughout this, the crew begins to use Haven as, well, a haven. During the first season, Serenity is their home, but they start to develop a second home. It's also a good way to keep Book as a recurring cast member.

I could even see story arcs where one or more of the crew leaves for a little while. Say, for example, there were some sort of outbreak on Haven, leading to Simon volunteering to stay there for 2 or 3 episodes.

Maybe there's even someone there to make a Simon-Kaylee-??? triangle(because if those two aren't going to hook up until the finale, SOMETHING needs to be done to spice things up).

Clearly, though, we have to care about the folks of Haven and see that Mal and crew care about them, so when the Operative's men slaughter lay waste to the place in act 3, it means something.

Love love LOVE this! I was thinking the same thing but you've mapped it out better than I could. I'd really love to see some depth in the Jayne/Book relationship and this would be a great place to do that (for example, fleshing out the whole cigar thing which I think is one of the coolest things in the film)

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5) I could easily see Inara being largley absent from the series for the first act. I can also see her being attracted to the Operative. He represents everything that Mal isn't, which is what she SHOULD be attracted to.

I suspect that, had the story been done as a series, we'd've had 5 episodes where the Operative is just hanging out with Inara, having political and philosophical discussions so that she (and we) can see just what an intelligent, clever man he is.

6) Ideally, THAT is how I'd've liked to have been introduced to the Operative, by the way. Consider this:

We first see him as a client of Inara's. Although it's a job, she's clearly attracted to him because he's so intelligent, insightful, etc.

It's only after we get used to the idea of him as potential competition for Mal in a romantic sense that we see a version of the opening of the movie and realize exactly who he is.

And then we realize exactly how clever he is and how carefully he's been weaving his web, and preparing to ensnare the crew of Serenity. He becomes chillingly efficient, but, to Inara, still not entirely unattractive, since he has the conviction that Mal seems to lack...

Oh the angst! :) Again, you've hit the nail on the head. This is a great idea. We have no idea how long the Operative is at the traininghouse before she

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