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Hunt for the Secret Hidey Place of Nice Boys

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:40 PM

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Dunno if you're a very bad man, but you're definitely a very bad dragon.

Bad Dragon! *shakes finger at Smaug*



LOL..

Yes.. you are probably right..

Smaug valued and protected and cherished his treasure above ALL things.. even more than his own life... to the point of his own death.

You are right... bad dragon!!

But what if he felt this same passion with such an intensity.. but his treasure would be a woman's soul?

Still a bad dragon?

Well.. it can scorch.. I do breath fire..

Smaug..

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:22 PM

My Idea of the Real Man, By BlackEyedGurl:

1. Real Men do not say cheesy crap with the intention of getting in your pants. Example: a seemingly nice guy hugs me, and says 'holding you gets me through the week' to which I called FOUL! I then said: Does that work? Does that get you into girls pants? He was stunned, and after a minute said: If I had said something dirty would it have worked? NOT A NICE GUY!

2. Real Men understand that Real Women (not those gold digging bitches) don't need everything paid for, taken care of, or to be coddled and pampered like a poodle. Real men respect women, and do not attempt to buy them. Real men also do not nooch off of a generous woman, nor do they get all shitty when a woman pays for something. We are generally not looking to support you or put you in the poor-house, its all about the give and take, the equality.

3. Real Men have lives of their own, friends of their own and do not expect a woman to be the center of their universe. Such expectations are impossible to live up to, and very few women really want to be the only thing in your life. We might bitch that you are going out with the guys AGAIN, but secretly we are glad to have a few hours to ourselves to bitch and moan about you on the phone to our friends (in a caring way, not in a I hate him and plan his death way).

4. Real Men are not looking to marry or date their mothers. If I had a nickle for every guy who went after a girl just to have someone to make them food and wash their boxers I would be a rich woman. We are not your mothers, get the fuck over it.

5. Real Men are friends with you first and foremost. They are people who see you as a human being and not as a warm blow up doll. Real Men don't stay for the sex, they stay for the conversation, the sex is just a bonus.

But that's just my view. I don't want a 100% nice guy, cos I can't stand a push-over or someone lacking a spine. I want someone with a pair of balls that can respect me and whom I can respect for making good decisions and being a decent human being. Most "nice" guys are either deceptive, manipulative little fucks who are only playing nice to snag a girl, or are kinda lame. This is not to say all nice guys suck. There are a few left out there who haven't been crushed under the heel of some satanic harpy. But I think those few may be hiding in caves or something, cos they don't seem to come out much.

This is why I have decided to not 'date.' I hate the idea, I'd rather hang and be friends with someone and really get to know them, not under the artificial auspices of a date.

If you can't tell, I've had a lot of run-ins with the pseudo-nice, the ones who bait and switch. So now I barely trust any of you. The minute you seem nice, I get suspicious. But that's me, I'm bitter, with cats. ;) Sadly, it doesn't stop me from liking boys!

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:18 PM

you know, there are a few guys out there, some probably reading this, thinking the exact same thing about where all the good women are. I don't want a woman who wants to be bought, and I need time for my friends, they've been in my life for 15 years, they will remain important, but not neccessarily take priority. Women I'm interested in are nothing like my mother, and I hope they aren't thinking about daddy when I'm with them. Hanging out with someone as friends is the best way to get to know the real them, not the mask many people wear when they go on dates.
"spine's in tact."
*goes back to cave looking for satanic harpy*

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:34 PM

lol Smaug!

You sound like Early.

Okay:

Blackeyedgirl- bitter and NOT looking for a nice guy. Check.

Jadehand-Nice guy with spine. Check. I can vouch for that. (Both the being nice and the having of the spine. I've seen him IRL, and he is definitely a vertibrate.)

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:09 PM

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You sound like Early.


Don't know Early. Does he have claws like spears too?? LOL..

Smaug..

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:40 PM

Hey Now! I'm looking for more than a nice guy, I want a good man!

And yes, I may be a little bitter. But that's just cos I live in the middle of no where, and thus have no way to get to the secret island of nice boys or good men!

Bugger!

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by Lofwyrr:
I'll tell you where we are. We're driving you home from the bar, drunk, as you cry about the hot guy that 'broke your heart' that night at the bar. We're holding back your hair as you puke. We're sitting at home when you call and say that your date for the night cancelled and can you come over and talk. We're sitting at the bar with you, watching your purse as you go up to the bar or out on the dance floor to hit on the hot guy, trying to get him to buy you drinks. We're waiting for you to realize that we'll treat you well all the time, not just when the hot, or rich, or nice car-having guys are done with you.

We're right in front of you.

Not that I'm bitter or anything

Be wary of rousing the wrath of wizards, for you are flammable and conduct electricity.



You know, I'm not usually into the random threads thing (and don't post all that frequently), but I like to think of myself as an observer of people, and especially relationships, and I think the post I've quoted has got all sorts of smarts to it.

For all interested in a bitter male perspective, visit http://www.intellectualwhores.com which has a wonderful theory. Even if you end up disagreeing with it, it's something to consider. And that's what we're about right?

But I imagine that most of you who are looking for a "nice guy" already have one around. And the fact that he's around, probably means he's interested. You know that whole "When harry Met Sally" thing that men and women can never be friends because if you don't want to have sex with him than he wants to have sex with you? Girls, I've got a news flash, it's absolutely true. Every female friend I have, I would date. Every one who I've had that I've decided it wouldn't be worth dating, I don't talk to any more.

So, when I'm there listening to a female friend talk about her (ex-)boyfriend, I'm taking notes. I'm learning more about her than said boyfriend does. Mainly so that if an opportunity comes up, there I am. And unless the guy is into guys, that's pretty much why guys are friends with girls.

So, where do you go to look for a nice guy? Odds are, you've already got him around. And odds are, he's also willing. You've just got to look around and see him not on the friend ladder, but on the relationship ladder (see link above). The problem isn't of finding guys (it's very easy to say "Why Hasn't a nice guy come along yet?") but rather why haven't you noticed the nice guy who's already there (a lot harder to ask that question). Expand the base of guys you're looking at... heck, for a day, or a week or whatever, size up every guy you meet as potential boyfriend material and see what you come up with (not that you have to act on it), but just to get your thoughts going in that direction.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:59 PM

This is sort of a hijack and sort of a pertinent question:

At what point in between "I don't know sir, there's just something I don't like about him" and their wedding did Zoe start to fall in love with Wash?... After he shaved off his moustache, I mean.

I think it when she saw how gifted a pilot he was.

What do you all think?

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:06 PM

What is the definition of a nice guy, every woman here has a diffirent definition. Every woman that I knew always considered me a nice guy, until I married. It just takes getting married to find a woman that doesn't think you are nice. It was a good change, but our marriage only lasted four years. Most women loved to hang out with me and loved one night stands, but I was always told I was too nice for more than that. Most people still consider me a nice guy, everyone but my ex-wife and her family, but I am more cynical now. One girl holds my heart now and she is six and I'll be paying child support for her until she is eighteen, she is the apple of my eye. Where does this perfect nice guy hide, in your pantie drawer and he runs on batteries? I read this post and beleive it was a little too cynical, I beleive that this world is a wonderful place, but it is up to us to make it so. For those of you that still beleive in love and relationships wonderful, I envy you the experience, you obviously have never had one. Just kidding, I just haven't found the right woman yet and that makes me cynical. I have a couple of women that are interested in me, please allow me a little ego, one of them comented to me that she hates my ex-wife because she has ruined me for other women. Having been a nice guy for several years, I have found that most women have the Romance Novel Syndrome, they look for guys that they can change, they don't want a nice guy, I was always told I was boring because I was nice. I am a geek and always will be. I learned to be exciting, and bad, because that was what woman wanted, now I'm just myself, pretty boring. Life is too short to be anything but yourself, and I really don't give a damn what woman think of me anymore. That geek hanging out at the local gaming shop is just a diamond in the rough. No matter what any guy tells you he really wants to get in your pants and at least three times a week, unless he's gay of course. Most guys want more also, but most of the time a man's thoughts are on the continuation of the species. The thing about the guy at the local gaming shop is most of experience is in "his bunk", but this actually will probablly make him better, because he cares more, and eventually will have more experience. I can only speak from personal experience. When he breaks your heart you can return to your pantie drawer until you recover and are ready to play the great game again.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:41 PM

hmm...gifted pilot..yes, I could see that.

I know I'm a sucker for talent...intellectual and artistic being the more attractive talents to me...but musical, physical, techie, literary, they all have their appeal.



btw...ladder theory kinda makes sense


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