BDHs speak French!

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IAMZOE

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:39 AM

I'm interested in what someone said above, that there are different versions of Serenity in Quebecois French and French French - is that true? I started learning French in Canada (Nova Scotia - now Acadian French, that's something), but then lived in France, so I'm really into finding out the differences between the two.

How good is the dubbing in Serenity / Firefly? Do you ever get things like, if the person has a really strong accent in English, they choose to put it in a Canadian French accent in the dubbing? For example (because that doesn't seem specially clear now I read it over!), I used to watch a Scottish police show (Taggart) when I just moved to France - the English they speak in that has a really distinctive accent (they're from Glasgow), and my friend told me that in French they choose actors to dub it with strong southern French accents.

LUCKYSPENCER7

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:58 PM

iamzoe, that was me. as I metioned in my post, it wasn't me that saw it in French, but a fellow Montreal Browncoat. so I really couldn't compare myself. all I know is that there *usually* is a difference between the French version of a movie played in Quebec and in France. not only accent-wise, but also certain contemporary expressions are only used on one side of the pond.

I really don't know the actual details on this for Serenity.

TALLAUSSIEBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by doctorpayne13:
Oh dude, if you think Wash sounds bad, you should hear the voice they used for the Rock in french version of Doom. I seriously think it was a 10 year old girl.

*DIES laughing!*

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KAZZAHDRANE

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by iamzoe:
I used to watch a Scottish police show (Taggart) when I just moved to France - the English they speak in that has a really distinctive accent (they're from Glasgow), and my friend told me that in French they choose actors to dub it with strong southern French accents.

there's been une murder!

DOCTORPAYNE13

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:43 PM

Okay, having actually watched the trailer I can confirm that there are different voice actors in the French and Quebec versions. Also, there seem to be script differences as well. You know that scene from the rbberey at the beginning, where the dude's all like "you have to give me your authorization passcode," and Jayne shoots his gun? In the Quebec version that I watched, the guy down in the vault goes "D'accord," wheras in the France trailer, he goes "Okay!" with a french accent. So, there you have it.

HAIDON

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:53 PM

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Originally posted by doctorpayne13:
Oh dude, if you think Wash sounds bad, you should hear the voice they used for the Rock in french version of Doom. I seriously think it was a 10 year old girl.

Start again with the part where The Rock's voice gets dubbed by a 90 pound girl, cause I don't think that's ever getting old!

HARDAN

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:25 PM

In case you're interested:

German Trailers:
http://trailer.uip.de/serenity/trailer.html

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MT

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by iamzoe:
different versions of Serenity in Quebecois French and French French - is that true? I started learning French in Canada (Nova Scotia - now Acadian French, that's something), but then lived in France, so I'm really into finding out the differences between the two.

How good is the dubbing in Serenity / Firefly?

Well, you have to realise that Québécois French
and "French French" are two different thing,
such as British English, Canadian English and
American English have their own particularities.

Now talking on the dubbing of Serenity,
I saw this wonderful movie 2 weeks ago
[I'd never heard of Firefly or Joss Whedon before that...]
in a theater in Sherbrooke, Québec. I selected this theater as it is known
for releasing movies in both languages.
Unfortunately, I went on the very firt week of
the show, and the original version was not yet
in. I had to go with the French version...
I am a huge supporter of diversity and multiculturalism,
and so I do love to see a movie in its original version [English, Spanish, Japanese, French, Whatev'].
For Serenity, I was satisfied enough with the
dubbing, as most of the voices selected strengthen
or match the personnalities of the characters. I also appreciate the general approach of the adaptation of the film, as
reading on lips give me a particular sight
of the original dialogue.
Now, I am actually waiting with very little patience
to see the original version as I am definetly going to enjoy it much more. I am also looking forward to see the episodes of Firefly
and or course read the novel.

This message is getting long, sorry about that,
but I feel I must insist on one point: adaptation.
Dubbing a movie and adapting it to match
a certain market is not that easy, as the original
version gets many cultural points very picky
to modify. In general, I have to admitt the French adaptation are
in very general, rather good. However I also admitt some dubbing voices
are shitty, oh so shitty, and some adaptation
just give you the madness to burn the dvd.

I do think original version subtitled are the best, but this is a matter of opinion.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by iamzoe:
I used to watch a Scottish police show (Taggart) when I just moved to France - the English they speak in that has a really distinctive accent (they're from Glasgow), and my friend told me that in French they choose actors to dub it with strong southern French accents.

Same thing happens in animé, where Japanese => English = Osakan accent => Texan/generic cowboy accent.

I'm interested to see if this goes both ways when Serenity hits Japan. Unfortunately, I can't (yet) distinguish Japanese accents, so I have to wait for a fluent Japanese-speaker's review.

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SHAMBLEAU

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:19 PM

I've watched Firefly in its Region 1 French-dubbed version. it's actually a good way to keep up your French proficiency, if, like me, you practically have the dialog memorised. I can't tell if they're quebecois accents, I'm not that good. I can say that they miss a fair amount of the humor and they reduce the amount of Chinese, but don't eliminate it. Some of the voices are quite similar, but some just don't work well.

I have to say that the French do the best dubbing that I've seen, in general. Buffy was well dubbed, in particular. When you compare it to the Spanish, Italian and Japanese dubbing I've seen, it's head and shoulders above them.

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