Hunt for the Secret Hidey Place of Nice Boys
POSTED BY: mai
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 17:49
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Ric this is Mai...Mai this is Ric.
play nice!
www.thatweirdgirl.com
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"...turn right at the corner then skip two blocks...no, SKIP, the hopping-like thing kids do...Why? Why not?"
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Nice guys are so boring, predictable, wimpy and have low self-esteem.
Let me relate this topic to Firefly (and thus ruining the randomness of the thread).
Take Simon for example. He's a nice guy. Always trying to be proper and polite and help his sister. All good things. But he's a real sad sac for most of the series. He's too cerebral. But after being on the Serenity for a while, you can see him grow as a person. He finds strength through trials and shows signs of becoming a whole man.
Now take Jayne for example. He's a jerk. Thinks about himself nearly 100% of the time. Speaks his mind (the little there is of it). He does show some emotion, but only in extreme situations.
Then there's Wash. He's a fairly nice guy, but only until he's pushed too far. He's very reliable but doesn't handle things in stride. He worries too much.
And finally there's Mal. He is a man who has all the qualities of a man, and Joss had to make him this way on purpose. Simply because it would be very tough to believe that he's a captain of a crew if he's not solid. Mal can be sweet and tender, but he won't take flack. His stength comes from his belief in himself and he doesn't wait for others approval.
What usually happens to nice guys is that they start out like Simon. They end up finding a girl who claims to want a nice guy. The girl gets fed up with the nice guy, cause he's lame (as all nice guys are), and drops him like a bad habit. Then the guy at some point realises that life isn't about living up to other people's expectations all the time. It's about being your own person and doing so with fervor.
Nice guys only exist in a place in time before they get trampled on by girls, then they branch off into a few different paths.
1. The jerk. Afraid of being hurt again, he takes it upon himself to do the hurting and thus remain safe within his little bubble of jerkness.
2. The loser. Gives up. He just gives up all hope and lets his life fall apart.
3. The real man. Slowly comes to the understanding that accepting oneself is vital to developing real strength of character.
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I'll tell you where we are. We're driving you home from the bar, drunk, as you cry about the hot guy that 'broke your heart' that night at the bar. We're holding back your hair as you puke. We're sitting at home when you call and say that your date for the night cancelled and can you come over and talk. We're sitting at the bar with you, watching your purse as you go up to the bar or out on the dance floor to hit on the hot guy, trying to get him to buy you drinks. We're waiting for you to realize that we'll treat you well all the time, not just when the hot, or rich, or nice car-having guys are done with you.
We're right in front of you.
Not that I'm bitter or anything
Be wary of rousing the wrath of wizards, for you are flammable and conduct electricity.
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Sorry, Mai to hijack your thread but I'm doing very important Team Random initiations. There must be a few nice guys on the rugby team right?
http://www.kentrugby.co.uk/photo.php?t=2&id=12
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"If nothing we do means anything then the only thing that means anything is what we do"
"This is the Captain. There's a litle problem with our entry sequence, we may experience some slight turbulance and then explode."
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Rule #1: disqualify any boy who nominates (or tries to nominate) himself. Nice boys don't think of themselves as such, it's part of how they stay nice instead of narcissistic.
Posting here is a prime cause for suspicion of maneuvering for nomination. 
"Not a nice boy, but might play one on TV"
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"That's what governments are for, [to] get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds
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http://www.theniceguycomic.com/index.html
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"That's what governments are for, [to] get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds
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What do you mean as a nice guy, because some people would say im one of the nicest guys in the world and then some people would say that im one of the worst.
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I'm with Causalty on this... sorry to hijack your thread too. You understand, with all this random initiation stuff right? Last post woo hoo! 
My broken bicycle sits all alone
While I try my best to conduct this poem.
I found the buckin bronco Matt, its safe now
If she ever stole it, I don't know how.
Never mix flapjacks and turkey together
A Fannypack full of money will make one feel much better.
Sadly I don't know to how to work crisyllis into this poem
Anyone else agree Sean's abs are completely toned?
At long last this poem is done, I'll leave you to muse
That once my fake husband went on a gay cruise.
Mal: Define interesting.
Wash: Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?
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I ... like it! I agree with all your character examples. (and we'll just pretend you didn't say mean things about my Simon)
Seriously, speaking for myself, I wasn't defining the nice guy as some doormat who doesn't care. To me nice doesn't = weak. Nice doesn't even have to mean overt gestures like opening doors and such (not that there's a thing wrong with such gestures, to the nice girls they are very much appreciated). For me the nice guy is open, funny, understands the word compromise,unafraid to speak his mind, but at the same time willing to listen and take in other ideas/points of view. Theres a list that could go on and on, but i think you get the idea.
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Nice guys only exist in a place in time before they get trampled on by girls,
I agree with this statement somewhat, but...
1. It goes both ways, we all have had that expereince(s) where our hearts our ripped out and trampled to tiny pieces and we can't figure it out.
2. Its not all our fault, no matter what the guy was like to begin with he is who he is even if he tries not be.
3. Not all women have a secret fantasies about the bad boy type. Macho is one thing, but ultra- aggressive, insensitive, self-centered is something that we don't crave. Though, I'm sure some do.
4. This post is getting entirely to serious and I don't want to turn into some snipey, man bashing thread.
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3. The real man. Slowly comes to the understanding that accepting oneself is vital to developing real strength of character.
These are the ones were lookin' for! Maybe they aren't all hiding, maybe they are just shy or scared or whatever. This is just kind of a very round about way of saying: Nice guy wanted, please inquire within.
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