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POSTED BY: BlackoutNights
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 00:17
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
FLF, since last we talked I got Angel series 2 and Buffy series 5- liked them both (still goin' thru Angel), but they both bring me back to the thought that Dark Angel is so rock solid with it's characterizations; both Angel and Buffy have their characters change suddenly for the funny, or for the shock value, they seem to be okay with 'playing' with their people to tell a story, and Dark Angel always remained true to the characters, and told the story with and around them, not over them (makin' any sense here?)
Lucky for us that Serenity and FF are as rock solid, I think Joss has grown immensely as a writer and film-maker.
Nice to have you back here.
Chrisisareaver
Chisisall: I may have misunderstood your point,
but I thought you might be interested in reading this article by one of the Buffy writers about the ways stories are 'broken' on Buffy (and Angel):
http://www.fireflyfans.net/firefly/espenson.htm
because they start with the character's emotional arc
NOT with the plot,
it is a whole different school of writing where the plot supports what they hope is the natural growth of the character
(or brings out new facets of the personality)
instead of having the action be the point & purpose.
I loved Dark Angel, I'm not saying anything against it, but I'll bet they start from a different place when they developed their plots.
And I have to say I'm a little disappointed,
this thread HAD been ... well... less of a real thread,
BTW FLF (such a long name you have):
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Joss always loves his backstories, I'm sure we can still learn more about Book's past, not as a 'pre-quel' but as a backstory/flashback that is part of a future story
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You tellin' me what to do?!
Don't meddle or else. 
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"People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk, we're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome." -River
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Hey great sig Rolemancer!
Anyhoo - good point
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they could do it with flashbacks etc. but would Ron Glass be interested? I really hope so. I think it would make a good premise for the next movie - or at least a good sub-plot. I just have to say again (while I've 'spoilered' my thread and still can) how glad I am about Simon and Kaylee! Finally! And it cracked me up when River poked her head through the hole in the ceiling! It was hilarious!
Well, hope you're right!
Oh, and how many times have you seen the movie?
I know it's not very impressive compared to some people, but I'm skint and am going to see the movie for the third time tonight!
Also - I love DA, Buffy and Angel, (as well as Firefly obviously) and think they're all about equally good, with Firefly just nosing in front - especially if it had been allowed to continue for 7 seasons.
To hell with this! I'm gonna live!
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I think Buffy characterization is still best; Angel i'm not as sure about. Angel characters move little from where they started from, buffy characters are more like leaves in the wind. I suspect that given enough time, firefly characters can approach the level of buffy characters though. Jayne, Mal, Inara, are pretty much still archetypes, Kaylee, Simon maybe a little more complicated, River is much more complicated. Anyway, something to look forward to. By growth I don't mean that I want to see Jayne become not-Jayne, like some Worf wuss or something, but more sides. Maybe he has problems understanding the way people feel, or perhaps he understands other people's feelings and just doesn't care. What events in his past make him more afraid of Reavers than the rest of them? Stuff like that.
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Originally posted by fantasticlaughingfairy:
Well, hope you're right!
Oh, and how many times have you seen the movie?
I'm going for the 6th time tomorrow,
taking a friend who hasn't seen it yet
(but has watched the Firefly DVDs)
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how'd i know you'd be the first one here?
*walking by very quickly and not paying one bit of attention to the post. ok maybe a little. oh all right, i read the whole thing. but you can't post something like that. cause um curiosity killed the cat (because they were good kitties and didn't read the post) and dead cats ain't very much fun.
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Wow, I make a mistake a double post a topic then get more responses to the mistake than any other thread I've ever posted.
Figures.
"If I don't want out on stage thinking I'm the baddest motherfucker of all time, then I'm a charlatan."—Greg Dulli.
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see? your original thread should have told us to ignore it, and then it would have gotten more attention!
we are a contrary bunch....
reverse psychology ALWAYS works around here!
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Gotta post this...otherwise I don't get to play with all the randomites. Initiations are a must. Post #2. 1 more to go...
A poem.
My broken bicycle sits all alone
While I try my best to conduct this poem.
I found the buckin bronco Matt, its safe now
If she ever stole it, I don't know how.
Never mix flapjacks and turkey together
A Fannypack full of money will make one feel much better.
Sadly I don't know to how to work crisyllis into this poem
Anyone else agree Sean's abs are completely toned?
At long last this poem is done, I'll leave you to muse
That once my fake husband went on a gay cruise.
Mal: Define interesting.
Wash: Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?
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Bump.
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