Resurrection

POSTED BY: UnregisteredCompanion
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 22:53
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DREAMTROVE

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:16 AM

Okay, naysayers, of course wash is gone, but that doesn't stop the fun.

Here's mine:

1. Wash had programmed himself into the ships computer.

2. Reavers got him and his top half is king reaver and his bottom half is giant croc.

3. The alliance got him and he's the comic relief assassin with cyberware sent to kill Mal.

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:24 AM

"1. Wash had programmed himself into the ships computer."

Ooooooo...good one!

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"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

OBIWAN

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:41 AM

Wash is dead. He's a ghost.

River's a psychic.

Do the math.

"Butcher's Knife..."

DEEPTHINKER

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:04 PM

I've only seen the movie once, so please forgive me if I get my facts wrong, but I'm going to try and resurrect Wash and Book without resorting to deus-ex-machina, without inventing technology with no precedent, and without having characters act outside their natures - and without saying "it was all a dream".

Let me start with Book. The death of Book ought to have gone like this: Mal finds Book badly injured and shouts for Simon. Simon comes running whilst Book tries to talk to Mal. Simon arrives, and being a brilliant doctor, throws Mal out of the way, grabs medical gizmos from his bag and fights for Book's life. Sadly, despite the brilliant docotor's effort, Book dies.

However, it didn't go like that. What we see in the film is that when Simon gets close enough to see whom he has been called for, he stops running and starts acting like he has all the time in the world. Why?

There are three explanations I can think of: 1) the brilliant doctor can tell a fatal injury from 20 feet away, even though the patient is still conscious and has clearly survived an hour or so with his injuries already; 2) for some reason, there is no way Simon is going to help Book; 3) Simon knows Book is in no danger, despite his injuries.

The first explanation doesn't ring true. He's alive, and he's conscious, and Simon hasn't checked his injuries in any way.

The second explanation doesn't ring true either. Simon was happy to treat Jayne in "Ariel". It would be against his nature to refuse treatment.

That leaves us with option 3 - so why is Book in no danger, despite his injuries? Could Simon have a way of preserving Book's life despite any injury? If so, that explains why he stops running, doesn't push Mal out of the way, and doesn't fight to save Book's life.

Now clearly Book's life was in danger in "Safe", so something has changed. Where in the 'verse would the crew of Serenity get something that would protect their lives even if all their internal organs were removed or destroyed - something that the fancy Alliance hospitals don't have?

Happily, in "The Message" we have an off-screen group of medical researchers who are working on taking the internal organs out of people and replacing them. That can't be an easy procedure, unless they've also researched a way of keeping the brain intact whilst the procedure is carried out.

Let's assume that between the end of the episodes and the start of the movie, this group of medical researchers and the crew of Serenity bump into each other again. Possibly the researchers still want Tracey. Possibly Tracey's family find out what happened and hire Serenity for a revenge mission.

Once the dust has settled from this encounter, the crew of Serenity have several doses of the medical magic which stops people's brains dying when you take out their internal organs. This might be a drug which causes brain cells to enter a protective state when resources run thin - perhaps like bacteria can turn into spores or form protective cysts. Yes, this is new technology for the 'verse, but we have an established group who could invent it, would want to invent it, and would keep it out of Alliance hands, and it has a semi-plausible rationale to keep the science buffs happy - so I hope you will all let me get away with it. :-)

Obviously, Simon insists that River gets one, and the others get assigned by lottery. Only Simon knows who is protected and who isn't, but lets say these doses go to Book and Wash.

So when Book "dies", Simon stops running and doesn't try to save Book's life because he knows Book is in no danger and therefore it is more important to learn what he has to say. Simon's actions now make sense, when before they were actually a bit dubious.

Moving on to Wash, when he gets speared, Simon knows he is protected but doesn't have time to tell Zoe, which is why Zoe acts like Wash is dead. Alternatively, he does tell Zoe, but Zoe points out that once the Reavers finish eating him, he'll still be dead no matter what fancy chemicals he's been injected with.

Fortunately, the Rea

PIZMOBEACH

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:38 PM

Yo! Deep T! Nice 'un - I'd buy a bunch of tickets to that movie.

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ZEEK

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:03 PM

We already know that the Pax is what created Reavers. What we didn't know is that once the body is affected by the drug, it begins to reproduce the drug itself. While the reavers are raping Wash's dead body, the Pax is transmitted into his body. Wash is part of the 10th of a percent who become Reavers when affected by Pax.

The reason he is revived is because Reavers organs function differently than regular people. They survive mainly off of high doses of radiation. Which is why they fly their ships without core containment. Wash is quickly shuffled off to a reaver ship so that the radiation can help revive him.

In Serenity II the ship will be attacked by wash's reaver ship. He'll kill Kaylee and be killed by Zoe while he's raping her. She will become pregnant with Wash's baby who will be a half Reaver hybrid. Which makes him ages extrodinarily quickly at first and then slower once he reaches adulthood.

REAVERINA1985RIVIERA

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:28 PM

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Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
MAJOR SPOILER!!!!!

Use your imagination and resurrect Wash. Can be funny, smart, stupid, whatever. Keep in mind that anyone lame enough to suggest a long lost twin will be tied to a chair and forced to listen to Vogon poetry for 5 days.

hmm.. Vogon poetry... I don't think it's that bad.
Here comes the twin story!

The man Zoe married isn't Hoban Washburne, it's his brother Hogarth. She met the real Hoban in "Out of Gas"= the one with the moustash, and didn't like him because something bothered her (and it wan't the lip ferret). After he left to get his personal supplies, a very jelous Hogarth drugged him and took his place onboard Serenity as the Wash we know and love. The real Hoban was forced to take a job on another ship. After the BDM, Real Hoban reads his own obituary in the [whatever they use as nawspapers], and tracks down Serenity to find out why "he" is dead. Hoban shows up (with moustash intact) and causes some major surprises.

It's slightly plausible, Wash said the polution from his planet was so thick you can't see the stars. That much polluiton would cause major reproductive problems for the people that live there, they'd resort to in vitro fertilization, and that process more than occasionally produces twins.

Man, I'd love to see the look on Zoe's face when her dead husband strolls into the cago bay, saying "Excuse me, why am I dead?"

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The real-life box droppin', man-ape gone wrong thing, now without the pesky falling boxes

HEB

Monday, October 24, 2005 7:48 PM

Wash: "I am my thoughts. If they exist in her, River contains everything that is me and she becomes me. I cease to exist.

No one else exists either. River is all of us. We think. Therefore, she is."

River = Wash QED

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Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood
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I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

Monday, October 24, 2005 8:29 PM

Those plastic dinosaurs Wash plays with aren't just dinos...they are highly sophisticated storage drives. In a brief moment of consciousness, Wash downloads his brain into the T-rex right before he dies.

His hope is then to get a new body from a donor, a clone, or a full sized robot. His plan runs afoul when he discovers the voice module was never installed (he was too busy playing to finish the job) so he has no way of telling anyone he is trapped in a plastic dinosaur figurine.

River figures out what he has done, being psychic and all, but decides she likes him better as a toy. She never informs the rest of the crew.

~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

YORG

Monday, October 24, 2005 8:40 PM

How about . . .

. . . when Wash died River collected his mind inside hers.

And then River starts acting very odd (because she starts piloting the Firefly) Simon discovers a way to peek safely inside River's mind. He see's that she has a second mind stored inside her.

The search around for ideas and find a way to take out Wash's mind from River's, and store it onto a computer/digital drive. What do they do then????

. . . They plug it into the Firefly.

Wash can now communicate through the Firefly and speak over the commnunications system. Also, because he's now part of the ship, he becomes an even better pilot.

That's my idea for turning the Firefly into a sentient being (who happens to be Wash).

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