New Character idea (Serenity Movie Spoiler!)

POSTED BY: Rollerskate
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:53
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ROLLERSKATE

Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:45 AM

Okay, so, Book and the pilot are dead, that sad (really sad for the actors if they do make a new series) but here it goes.

So we all know that Book (the shepheard) and Wash (the pilot) are dead. This idea is meant to address this unfortunate but exciting opportunity.

Okay, so, they need a new pilot, so, they find somebody who is a good one... yeah. Just kidding, it's better thought out than that.

The new pilot will have a mysterious past himself, for he knew Book in the Allience. We all know that Book had something to do with the Allience, but we don't know what. Now, through this new pilot, we can find out. However, it won't be all about the past. This new pilot will also know others who were affiliated with the allience, or working directly for them, but who also, like Book, not be apposed to hanging out with or even helping Browncoats.

However, Zoe natural hates the new pilot since the previous one was her husband, but there will of course be an episode that addresses this, and they get to be decent friends.

Now, we also need a new Shepherd. Okay, so bare with me, but it makes sence. Jayne is the new Shepherd. I know I know, he's stupid, but hey, he's gonna have a change. Jayne is going to have a revelation in the new season and he'll discover God in a new and very funny way.

He'll become very interesting in God, and the Bible, which is when he discovers that Book left his Bible on Serenity. Jayne starts to read it. Then he stops becomes he's very confused. But after talking with Inara (who, although is a Buddhist, does know a thing or two about the Bible... she has to for her job).

Jayne continues to learn about God and tries to explain to the rest of the crew about it... failing misserably at first when he tries to be judgemental and preachy. But succeeds when he discovers that using biblical stories and truths with love is the best way to help people.

PIZMOBEACH

Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:08 AM

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MOOSE

Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Rollerskate:

So we all know that Book (the shepheard) and Wash (the pilot) are dead.

I do NOW!!!

TRAKEN

Monday, October 24, 2005 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Moose:
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Originally posted by Rollerskate:

So we all know that Book (the shepheard) and Wash (the pilot) are dead.

I do NOW!!!

If guys are in the US, and have not seen the movie, there a reduce number of theaters showing it, I lucked out and saw the show for the first time Oct, 17 and saw the movie for the first oct 21.

GWEK

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:50 PM

SPOILERS AHEAD!

Ship already has a new pilot: River.

If you watch the show, you know that Jayne wouldn't become a shepherd because then, hey, no women. Also, we see from the get-go that Jayne is religious, so that wouldn't be an evolution of his character.

Besides, the ship doesn't need a shepherd. Thematically, Mal loses his faith at the Battle of Serenity Valley, but regains it when fighting the Operative and protecting River. The reason Book needs to be there is as a counterpoint to Mal's faithlessness. With that gone, there's no story reason for him any more. I mean, it's not like every smuggling vessel in the 'Verse is running around with a preacher onboard!

Sorry, but I don't see either thing happening.

GREGGALLINSON

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:57 AM

As many fans I've talked to have noted, if there's ever going to be a new Shepard on Serenity, it's going to be The Operative.

N0SKILLZ

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:03 AM

But Mal would kill the operative is he saw him again

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GREGGALLINSON

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by N0Skillz:
But Mal would kill the operative is he saw him again

I'm sure he'd try, but then the Operative would stop him and they'd discuss the Operative's newfound faith like civilized men.

Basically, the movie hints- rather strongly, IMO- that Book was an Operative. Joss doesn't come right out and say it, leaving the idea a subtle intimation rather than a clumsy "revelation" (thank god), but every fan I've spoken to has picked up on the idea. So...if we operate under the assumption that Book was an Operative who lost faith in the Alliance...

GWEK

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:02 PM

Thing that I'm curious about is who was standing in Mal's shoes when Book was in the Operative's.

OHNANKA

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:40 PM

I think people are bring too narrow. Things have to move forward, I was especially surprised at the character deaths. I do agree it isn't a problem, however, for the story to continue without book and Wash.

Book clearly was high up brass and has a speckled history. Through revalations about the war, meeting incidental characters that knew him, alliance dealings, etc, I think Joss could gradually bring out the mystery of the character without need for the presence of some main character to be a 'winston zedmore' plot monkey. Some of it will be more poigniant simply because he is no longer with them.

As for a replacement character, maybe, but I dont think it should be another shepherd or religious type, its a mistake to 'fill the role' of book, instead Im sure there are many other good characters that could find themselves on serenity.

Im sad wash has gone, but in many ways he was one of the best to kill, his light-hearted nature made it even more shocking. Its leaves plenty of great development for Zoe. With river 'improving' with a role on the ship, the pressure added by zoe's tradgedy will fill that gap.
In many ways Wash was my least favourite character. Though he was funny, i felt he was the most 'buffylike' of all the characters. I was never a fan of Joss's earlier work, at least not the way it developed from the initial concept. However, another funny-guy character would not go amiss.

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