A suit's eye view on Serenity and sequels

POSTED BY: tiredoldreaver
UPDATED: Sunday, October 30, 2005 18:03
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EVILBOB

Monday, October 24, 2005 7:51 AM

G'day all - a bit of international response - i hadn't heard of Firefly till about a week after Serenity came out in Australia - My mate by chance saw the DVD for Firefly, had heard it was good, bought it. He's seen the movie four times - i've seen it twice (all i can afford). I tried to get the box set on DVD - i live in Melbourne, a city of 3 and a half million - and they are all sold out. Just can't get 'em. This show is awesome, and touches a chord with many. Hoping they do another Season!

Boo!

VIOLETRIX

Monday, October 24, 2005 8:08 AM

I'm new to Firefly. I watched about 5 episodes 3 days before Serenity came out and I instantly converted. Never before have I seen such an amazing, intelligent show. Obviously, I went out and bought the dvd set, which seemed as natural to me as breathing. Watched the movie a second time. Am going again this week. I've converted my sister, who is a self-proclaimed scifi hater.
Anyway, I'm glad the movie is doing well. In reality, ( and I have no head for business, so bear with me ), isn't it really the profits the studio cares about and not whether there are repeat viewers? Or is that something that will reflect on the Serenity dvd sales? I've actually been checking the box office stats too, and usually I could care less. Firefly just gets under your skin, and you're hooked.
I'll keep trying, keep sending everyone I know to the film. I really admire those who have stuck with it. I'm glad you're all out there.

time for some thrilling heroics

TRAKEN

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by mikelesq:
To me, the most encouraging factor is the sales of the Firefly DVDs since Serenity's release. It's still at #4 on Amazon. This is after the existing fandom has had 2 years to buy their copy. And it's not cheap ($30 online, as opposed to a $20-25 movie). It's outselling Batman and Lost.

The message seems clear: see the movie, and you want to see more.

That's true, ive been watching firefly on scifi past few weeks, oct 21 i saw the movie, and yesterday ordered the season 1 dvds. I guess I am no the only new fan around.

I would like to see a video game out of this, I remember a few games called Hardnova, privater, freelancer, which were all great and are based on a similar kind of principle to firefly.

STILLWATERS

Monday, October 24, 2005 2:16 PM

I'm optimistic that we've shown Universal that there is at least the seeds of a franchise here. So where do we go from here Sequel, New series. If past history is any guide then the answer is both. When they brought Star Trek back the original cast did the movies and a new cast came in for TNG. So I think the most likely scenario is that we'll see at least one more Serenity movie with the original cast and that possibly a Firefly spin-off on the SciFi channel.
Remember Firefly is a classification of ship, Serenity is the name of our most loved ship. There could be lots of old Firefly class transports sitting out there. So you could easily have another group of ex-brown coats flush from a recent extra-legal activity looking for something to do with their money. Maybe their last job almost went south on them because they had to depend on someone else for the getaway. Something reliable, but not flashing.
Maybe I'm just in denial. What do you think?

Shiny, Let's be bad guys :)

RENNA

Monday, October 24, 2005 2:39 PM

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Originally posted by Stillwaters:
I think the most likely scenario is that we'll see at least one more Serenity movie with the original cast and that possibly a Firefly spin-off on the SciFi channel.

Brilliant! I really enjoy this idea. I'm sorry, gang, but anyone who was a Buffy Fan knew that somewhere along the line, they ran out of story ideas. I love our existing cast with an unhealthy passion, and I'd love to see another movie with them.

But, it'd be awesome to have another season of the series with new cast members. It wouldn't taint the memory of our fallen crew by replacing them, and it wouldn't screw up the group dynamics. Instead, we'd meet a whole new group. With Joss's witty writing and his talent for picking the perfect cast, we're sure to get something shiny.

"You can't take the sky from me"

FLYINGTAMS

Monday, October 24, 2005 2:50 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

I've never done this before... never been obsessed with a show.

What I'm saying, is that I think it's the same for almost everyone who comes in contact with it, they FALL IN LOVE WITH IT!

yeah, me too. I've just been here for so long that I'm a bit burned out. But then you new lot comes in all full of energy and jazz everything up again :)

We may yet prevail.

BALLAD

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:00 PM

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Originally posted by Cub:
Some very enlightening info from the original poster.

I've no doubt whatsoever that whether or not this Firefly/Serenity franchise continues in one form or another will be a creative decision, not a financial one. In other words, I believe in the end it'll be Joss' decision.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

Good point, Cub, if Joss doesn't want to continue the 'verse, then any sequel would suck and we would hate it. But you have to remember that if Joss, the cast, and the people involved DO want to continue working in this 'verse that we love...they can't do so on the strength of love alone. Without the financial, the creative is left dead in the water, and without the creative, the financial side of things might turn a profit, but it would destroy that bankable fan base tiredoldreaver was talking about. Which, I think is a good point. Don't tell me that the Browncoats wouldn't run out to see Serenity 2, no matter what the critics said, right? That's a nearly-garaunteed profit for Universal. I really think there's a good shot for Serenity2 (although I think it should be called something else...) since Universal has seen that we will turn out in force for this franchise. We ARE Trekkies...but smaller. ;) I mean, come on. Nemesis sucked. It made $67,312,826 worldwide. Browncoats may be a smaller group...but not for long.

--Ballad

They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky, and they remember what they are.

TRAKEN

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Renna:
Quote:
Originally posted by Stillwaters:
I think the most likely scenario is that we'll see at least one more Serenity movie with the original cast and that possibly a Firefly spin-off on the SciFi channel.

Brilliant! I really enjoy this idea. I'm sorry, gang, but anyone who was a Buffy Fan knew that somewhere along the line, they ran out of story ideas. I love our existing cast with an unhealthy passion, and I'd love to see another movie with them.

But, it'd be awesome to have another season of the series with new cast members. It wouldn't taint the memory of our fallen crew by replacing them, and it wouldn't screw up the group dynamics. Instead, we'd meet a whole new group. With Joss's witty writing and his talent for picking the perfect cast, we're sure to get something shiny.

"You can't take the sky from me"

I dunno the universe is not what drew me into the show but more the cast.
I would want any new cast to have a different ship/purpose/story, otherwise I say use the current cast.

SEP7IMUS

Monday, October 24, 2005 5:10 PM

If there were a spinoff (in any media), it would have to involve Joss, right? I mean, even if he had moved on from the show, I'm pretty confident that he loves it enough not to just sell the creative rights. So, we're talking about another Joss-creation, right?

IF that's the case, then the quesiton is whether he should go for a new cast (i.e. a spinoff about another ship, or colony, or whatever) or whether he should (can?) bring back the old story and just continue it. I think we would all agree that we want more of the BDHs. I'm pretty sure that Joss does, too. So, the quesiton is whether he CAN continue their story. The obvious hurdle will be getting them all back (although I understand that theyr'e all quite committed to the show). (Other hurdles migth include meddling execs, and the ever-present financial question).

So, my conclusion is that a spinoff, however fun it might be, isn't likely to happen unless it is the ONLY way that Joss can revisit this universe (and, frankly, I think he's probably more committed to the characters than the universe, so he's not likely to do that, either.)

JBJ

Monday, October 24, 2005 5:59 PM

Great to see some educated optimism on the possibility of more Serenity! Another minor factor -in our favor- that many are forgetting is the money this franchisce makes from merchandise. To my knowledge there are comics,action figures, trading cards, roleplaying game, books, and numerous misc. items. When you consider that most movies take in zilch on merchandise, this little film stands out. Would a guesstimate of 2-5 million be overly optimistic?

jbj

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