What do you think ever happened to the Military leaders of the Independents?

POSTED BY: Vorpal
UPDATED: Friday, November 25, 2005 08:25
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ROCKETJOCK

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 AM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
The American colonists threw off the "yolk of oppression" to gain a freedom they didn't formerly have.

Yes, but Britain egged us on. Still, it broke us out of our shell, forced us to prove we weren't chicken.

I know, I know, the jokes smell like rotten--like rotten... They smell bad! But I never claimed my puns were grade "A"...

"You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs." -- Napoleon Buonaparte

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM

Just gonna run that one right into the ground, eh?

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PYROFALKON

Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:21 AM

I think we are ignoring the possibility that the Independents had no iconic leaders.Having such a figurehead is asking for trouble. If they operated as is portraid, a resistanceand not a politcal faction, it would been organized into underground cells, each one insulated by the cell above and below, thus elimanating such strategic chinks. Of course, i am most likely incorrect, and in which case i just say that the leaders promptly disappeared, executed in a "night of the long knives" style secret police action.

PYROFALKON

Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:22 AM

ROCKETJOCK

Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:21 AM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
Just gonna run that one right into the ground, eh?

Of course it's gonna run into the ground. Chickens can't fly!

"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." -- Henry Cabot Henhouse III

GIANTEVILHEAD

Monday, October 24, 2005 3:40 AM

I'm thinking that at least a few Independent leaders betrayed the Browncoats.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

SHINYSEVEN2

Monday, October 24, 2005 4:04 AM

I know one popular theory was that Book's pre-Shepherd career was as an Alliance General. Actually I think what would make him keep his mouth shut about his background would be if he were an Independent leader, because then Mal would be even madder at him than at God.

VORPAL

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:56 AM

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Originally posted by shinyseven2:
I know one popular theory was that Book's pre-Shepherd career was as an Alliance General. Actually I think what would make him keep his mouth shut about his background would be if he were an Independent leader, because then Mal would be even madder at him than at God.

I'like your idea of Shepherd as an Alliance Commander,possibly one of the ones who surrendered Serenity Valley.I would think that he would be recognizable to Mal or Zoe,though.It would explain his vow not to kill,his attachment to Serenity's crew,his weapon expertise,and his faith.It might even explain why the Alliance operated on him with no questions asked.I can't reconcile this with what River read him thinking in "Objects in Space," though.Any other ideas about the Independents High Command? I'm not so sure about a Night of the Long Knives approach that someone else theorized.I think it would have convinced Mal and other veterans to continue fighting as guerrillas,instead of smugglers.Any other ideas? Anyone? Anyone?Bueller?

Vorpal
"When you can't run,you crawl.When you can't crawl,you find someone to carry you..."

JETFLAIR

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:20 AM

In the Visual Companion, Joss provides some backstory. In it he says he thinks they were all held briefly in internment camps after the war, but the Alliance considered it an important gesture to release them.

So it sounds like they might have been imprisoned for a spell, but probably treated with decency. Perhaps they did award the medal..sort of a "you fought us, but we acknowledge your courage" thing?

FLETCH2

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:18 PM

I think it's unlike Joss to make anything that black and white or any faction either complete a**holes or complete angels. In keeping with his modus operendi I suggest the following --

1) The people that helped forment and who led the Independents were after trade concessions with the Alliance, when they got what they wanted they surrendered. They are now rich/powerful industrialist types in the Alliance.

2) The Alliance found some Benedict Arnold type who was more than happy to surrender if the price was right. Either he then backstabbed the current independent leadership to get command or the Alliance did it.

On the Book question. Could you imagine if Book had been an Alliance operative sent with the job of eliminating some leader (perhaps the independents had a President) but with instructions to leave no survivors to be rallied around. Could you imagine him slaughtering the man and his family? That would certainly explain why he turned to God.

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