Reavers
POSTED BY: RochesterBrowncaot
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 19:55
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Sorry for what I’m gonna say, because I know it’s gonna come off all wrong and passive aggressive like...
But why bring evolution into this? It’s not even connected in any way. Also why does the immune system need to be suppressed? If being a reaver means suffering from acute psychosis, and behaving with an extreme pack mentality how does river show any symptoms, or infer an infection? And finally, if this agent, whatever it is, is found within the muscular tissue of infected individuals then it would be found in the blood of the reavers (especially since its so unlikely that someone would lacerate a reaver without causing any tissue damage, in turn leaking the agent into the bloodstream o_0).
Sorry about that.
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I took the Bushwhacked guy to have suffered from something like the Helsinki syndrome - you know where a captive spends enough time with a captor to begin to behave like them and believe in their 'philosophy'. You get the idea anyway...
Are there lady reavers (reaverettes)?
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I think Reavers are suffering from two separate psychosis:
The one caused by the PAX, causes extreme aggression/possibly territorial instinct.
The other was caused by the massive deaths on Miranda remember Reavers won't eat anything dead. The dead bodies on Miranda were not molested. The Reaver lurk around the planet. Crazy or not these people watched their loved ones lay down and die, along with millions of others for no apparent reason.
Shiny, lets be bad guys!
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Yes there are reaverettes - see the Serenity Pictorial Guide
Also, they could be campfire stories about them after only a decade or so - think how quickly urban legends spread! (*giggles to self as imagines Mythbusters doing a show on reavers*)
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As far as I know, there's no evidence that there were any stories about Reavers prior to (approximately) ten years before the events in the movie.
The scenes of River's classroom take place when she's nine years old, or eight years before Serenity. That allows at least a couple of years for Reaver stories to reach school-age kids on the core planets. Since the 'verse seems to have instant communication from edge to edge, that's no problem.
Jayne's remarks in the cargo bay are that Reavers showed up within the last ten years "like the bogeyman from stories". He does not imply that there were any stories about Reavers before they appeared, only that there were scary stories about bogeymen.
If Pax is a prion (as I speculated), it could still be dispersed in the air, and ingested after it settles in water supplies or onto food. That could mean that the agent that caused the "apathy deaths" on Miranda could be the same agent (and has varying effects), or the Reaver agent could be a mutated form.
If ingestion is the means of transmission, the Reavers have a way of "reproducing" -- just feed your victim some Reaver flesh (from, say, a facial cut). That would make Reavers a sort of vampire-in-reverse -- you become a Reaver by drinking one's blood, rather than the other way around. Perhaps the Reavers' taste for raw human meat is a symptom of the prion infection as it tries to spread itself; many infectious agents change the behavior of their hosts in ways beneficial to the agent (and not necessarily good for the host).
One thing we don't know is how long it takes to become Reaverized. Prion diseases tend to have long incubation periods, but there's no reason I know of that this has to be true.
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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.
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i just watched the movie again so...10% of 3 million gives us...300,000 Reavers....thats a lot of Reavers
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If each one of that 300,000 were to reaver up one person each, then that bigger bunch of 600,000 were to reaver up another one each, and so on, and so forth...
That's, like...
That's math I can't even do!
Dis!
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Just a thought-
Who says Miranda was the first?
How many other failures did they have that got chalked up to terra-forming events?
And in "Bushwacked" only one man was left alive on the Trans-U, and he wasn't the biggest or the strongest. Perhaps there's something else they look for, some clue that tells them whether someone is vulnerable enough to turn Reaver when forced to stare into the darkness?
December Screen Caps are up at
www.jaynesbunk.com
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I don't know if anyone read the very interesting essays in "Finding Serenity," but one of them had some very interesting theories of Reaver Guy from Bushwhacked. It said basically that RG had some very very serious Stockholm Syndrome going on. Going from that theory, the reavers could attack ships and see if anyone gets super-stockholm syndrome (ie survives). If they do, the reavers either leave them (maybe by accident or they forget) or take them on their ships.
Another question entirely: What do reavers eat? They can't live on human flesh alone (protein poisoning would kill them as long as the pax didn't change their physiological structure), and they don't take the food supplies from the ships they pillage, so how do they feed their fleets?
Sorry if there's some inconsistancies, I'm in a rush to leave but I had to write something!
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