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The Operatives Sword

POSTED BY: NeoDoug1
UPDATED: Friday, October 21, 2005 20:26
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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:07 AM

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Originally posted by ThePyro:
all right, that settles that.....nvm then, lol. What kinda steal do you suggest Avtomat? for swords, daggers, etc....edged weapons?

There's everything from 420, which sharpens easily but can't hold an edge, to 1095 (non-stainless) that holds a great edge and sharpens fairly easily. I've made knives from 1095 stock, old saw blades and even an old truck leaf spring once and they all turned out well.

When buying commercially, steer clear of anything labeled "surgical steel", a null term, equivalent to saying "really good steel" - it could be anything. Most of all look at the price. Like I said above, $20 for two 3 foot blades is a sure sign they're junk. A quality sword of that size that can actually be USED would cost at least $100, probably more if made in the USA.

Here's a chart that has some of the common blade steels used and their properties -
http://www.huntingblades.com/tyofstusinkn.html

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Friday, October 21, 2005 7:54 PM

Actually, I think that sword might be the exact one used in the movie. Does anyone believe that they forged a sword just for this movie? The shape is identical if nothing else. The fullers on the back edge seem to be the same as well. I think they removed the cord wrapping from the hilt and used a rubbery or plastic like substance though.

The quality is good for a prop. 420 steel isn't going to win a war for you, but you could probably kill a few people with it if such things interest you. This sword appears to be made by the same company that makes the "black ronin" sword. I have a copy and love it. It is a single piece of steel, so it is far sturdier than what you will typically find with this quality level. It will definately be everything you need for a prop sword. If you want a combat sword, you had better have the budget to get it custom forged.

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Friday, October 21, 2005 8:14 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnOperative:
The quality is good for a prop. 420 steel isn't going to win a war for you, but you could probably kill a few people with it if such things interest you[...]It will definately be everything you need for a prop sword. If you want a combat sword, you had better have the budget to get it custom forged.

You could kill a few people with a sharpened tooth brush handle if you wanted, but that's not really the point. Some people would rather have something "real" even if it's just going to be a wall-hanger (I know I would). I was just trying to help the guy avoid getting something cheap that he would end up not liking.

I had a buddy who was into these "prop" swords and he would swing them around like an idiot in his living room. Some of them do seem pretty sturdy, and the one that separated at the hilt and sent the blade crashing through the television just inches from his little sister's head seemed pretty sturdy too. If you've ever held an expensive, made-for-use blade you'd immediately tell the difference.

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Friday, October 21, 2005 8:26 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger:
You could kill a few people with a sharpened tooth brush handle if you wanted, but that's not really the point. Some people would rather have something "real" even if it's just going to be a wall-hanger (I know I would). I was just trying to help the guy avoid getting something cheap that he would end up not liking.

I had a buddy who was into these "prop" swords and he would swing them around like an idiot in his living room. Some of them do seem pretty sturdy, and the one that separated at the hilt and sent the blade crashing through the television just inches from his little sister's head seemed pretty sturdy too. If you've ever held an expensive, made-for-use blade you'd immediately tell the difference.



No doubt. I have seen my share of crap too. I really do think anyone not interested in battle will be completely happy with this sword. It looks and feels very real. The metal quality isn't anything special, but I don't know anyone who can guess the carbon content of steel by touching it. For what it is worth, I just bought one of these. Thanks for the link. They also sell them on Amazon, but the shipping is $2 more. For $27 with shipping, I can't imagine anyone regreting this purchase (especially anyone use to paying for light saber replicas).

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