New Firefly fan. Comments about Serenity.

POSTED BY: dantheman
UPDATED: Sunday, October 23, 2005 22:42
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DANTHEMAN

Friday, October 21, 2005 2:54 PM

I never saw or was interested in the show before seeing commercials for Serenity. Then I went to see Serenity on the second weekend it was out and loved it. I liked it so much that I had to check out Firefly.

Now that I'm through half of the season, I realize what a huge mistake Serenity was. Joss should've never made the show into the movie. He should've tried to get it to another TV network, maybe HBO or something else. Instead with Serenity he ripped the heart out of the Firefly and even if they decide to continue it now, it would never be the same.

Another problem that I have with Fox is why or who mismanaged the show when it first aired? The Train Job is my least favorite episode. Not only do they give it a bad time slot, they don't promote it and they start off with the Train Job?

I haven't liked a show this much since Buffy ended, unfortunately it seems like it had a premature death.

I'm still hoping that SciFi or another network will buy the rights (like it happened with Buffy) and that Firely will continue. Serenity was just a big mistake even though I didn't realize it when I've seen it first.

THELURKER

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:14 PM

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He should've tried to get it to another TV network, maybe HBO or something else. Instead with Serenity he ripped the heart out of the Firefly and even if they decide

He did try to get the show moved, and I disagree that the heart was ripped out in Serenity, though I can sympathize with those who think so. Had the show continued on, much of what happened in the movie would have happened by the end of the second season.

STAKETHELURK

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:25 PM

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Joss should've never made the show into the movie. He should've tried to get it to another TV network, maybe HBO or something else.

I agree with The Lurker on both counts. Joss tried to get a network, any network, to pick it up. He fought long and hard for that, but they all turned him down. The movie was a last resort to finish telling the story he'd set out to tell in "Firefly." If Joss had been able to continue the show on TV, he would've--but he couldn't, so he continued it in another medium. I also disagree that the heart was ripped out, I feel the film was a fine continuation--though of course more episodes would've been better. But, I've got no problem with those who feel otherwise.

After all, the movie was all about the right to be wrong.

CUB

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:59 PM

For whatever it's worth, I agree with the original poster on all of his points about the movie and the show. And I think the fact that Firefly is doing so well on the Sci-Fi Channel right now shows that the audience for the original product is out there.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

SEVREN

Friday, October 21, 2005 6:16 PM

Why exactly was Serenity a big mistake?

HANOVERFIST

Friday, October 21, 2005 6:33 PM

I have to agree that Serenity is a big disappointment.

What got me hooked on the show in the first place was that it had heart. The characters and their backstories were deep. The interplay between them was so very interesting. (As we rewatched the series before watching Serenity my wife said some of her favorite moments were the times that Mal's gaze would linger on Inara when she did not know it. Quiet, touching, and heartful.)

In the movie the characters just seem ridiculous charactitures of themselves. I mean, Mal sucker-punched Simon twice in the pilot epsode (which I think is MUCH better than the BDM) and yet in Serenity he just lets Simon deck him and be insubordinate without so much as a b!tchslap in return? Please.

Not to mention the fact that the central premise to the movie was just lame. The Reaver origin story was just weak. Maybe the lesson here is that Joss belongs on TV. He writes great dialogue, but the writing when it actually comes to plot is pretty weak. (i.e. The Train Job)

This is what makes me sad. I was never a Buffy or Angel fan. Tried to watch Buffy, but I could not manage to sit through even a single episode. My wife and I rented the first season of Angel and I don't think we could even make it through two episodes before we returned it. But I LOVED Firefly.

Maybe it is because Joss is a soap opera writer. Because of my personal tastes maybe I find a sci-fi sopa opera easier to stomach than a vampire/demon soap-opera. I don't know. But I do know that after watching the BDM and listening to Joss' nonsense on the Objects in Space commentary I am not terribly excited about his future projects (or the future of the Firefly universe, for that matter).

I guess I am just very disappointed and sad. I just keep thinking to myself that it did not have to turn out this way. I also wish that Joss had been able to see a way to bring the BDM into this world without killing Firefly. I also know that I am not the only fan who feels the same way.

THELURKER

Friday, October 21, 2005 7:42 PM

I just wanted to remind people that Joss' original TV pilot had to be rewritten under network orders and that they told him to make Mal 'more likeable.' It is possible that those who didn't like the movie may not have liked the series very much if Joss had been allowed to do Firefly on his own terms.

Food for thought.

MALSWAY

Friday, October 21, 2005 7:43 PM

Liked the show. Liked the movie. Guess I'm just easy to please.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, October 21, 2005 7:59 PM

It will never be the same. Joss never wants it to be the same. If it were the same, it would be boing, uninnovative, star trek.

SEVREN

Friday, October 21, 2005 8:02 PM

Guess I am too. I still have not seen any discrepancies between the show and movie. For those upset at Wash's death, sure its sad. But its emotionally charging at the same time. If nobody ever died, there would be no risk in fighting. There would be nothing to lose, so anything gained is that much weaker and it wouldn't mean as much. It was sudden, but death often is. This movie has more heart than anything else I've seen in a long time. That's because the writer loves this 'verse, loves that ship, and loves those characters.

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