Joss Made My 11-yr-old Daughter Cry

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UPDATED: Friday, December 2, 2005 23:41
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FOLLOWMAL

Friday, October 21, 2005 3:15 AM

Gosh, I'm almost cross eyed from reading all the posts.

My Mom and I went to see Serenity for the 3rd time today.... and when we got to the part of first Book's and then Wash's deaths, we could hardly bare to look. We cried for the third time, and there were tears in the row behind us. My Mom kept saying, "I can't stand to watch this part."

My father passed away a year ago come Christmas, and we have been devastated. The fact that this story made us feel grief for these characters, and fear for the rest is as close to genius writing as I know.
Joss writes "real" and gets "real" reactions.

And I'm grateful. Bad and good I'm so glad I found this story.

Real life if rough and full of pain. The best of our stories are the same. That is what makes them the best of our stories. And this movie fits in with the best of them.

FollowMal

FOLLOWMAL

Friday, October 21, 2005 3:16 AM

Gosh, I'm almost cross eyed from reading all the posts.

My Mom and I went to see Serenity for the 3rd time today.... and when we got to the part of first Book's and then Wash's deaths, we could hardly bare to look. We cried for the third time, and there were tears in the row behind us. My Mom kept saying, "I can't stand to watch this part."

My father passed away a year ago come Christmas, and we have been devastated. The fact that this story made us feel grief for these characters, and fear for the rest is as close to genius writing as I know.
Joss writes "real" and gets "real" reactions.

And I'm grateful. Bad and good I'm so glad I found this story.

Real life is rough and full of pain. The best of our stories are the same. That is what makes them the best of our stories. And this movie fits in with the best of them.

FollowMal

AUXARC

Friday, October 21, 2005 3:48 AM

Just my two cents worth about the movie. I'm new here, so I apologize if I step on any toes. I am ultimately okay with Wash's death. This does not mean that I was not saddened, but to paraphrase an earlier post for the complete crew to have lived would have felt very Walt Disneyish. I would have felt cheated then. That being said, I don't understand why every claims that Wash's death is less than heroic. He died fighting in the belief that he was doing a better good, a right. Mal gave them all a chance to leave. He chose to stay. Several times throughout the film Wash showed himself to be a hero. He piloted the ship to a safe landing and died trying to get the communication device to Mr. Universe. If he died ten minutes before or ten minutes after would he death been more heroic? Just because a post went through Wash doesn't negate the character, movie, or death. I can only assume that the unexpectedness of the death is what is causing the disgust, but in so many cases, this is life. I've had grandparents die and have known a few young people to pass away after an extended illness. All have hurt, but in the back of my mind I had time to prepare, to accept, and to say goodbye. It was the sudden death of my sister in a car accident on the way to classes that still hurts to the core. Joss has an uncanny way of portraying death the way it often is, sudden and unexpected, often to healthy people on a pretty day. Even in Buffy, her mother suvives the brain tumor only to suddenly later.
Mercifully for me, Joss has done several things in the movie to help accept Wash's loss.
First, the death wasn't at the very end as the last scene. I hate watching a movie to have a person die at the last three minutes with no true resolution. Second, I was allowed to see the crew move on. I got to see them say good-bye to both Book and Wash with a funeral. Seeing the other characters accept and mourn the deaths and move on helped me to move on. Joss ended the movie nicely with the exchanges about the ship being bumpy but riding true and the storm becoming bad but passing through it. I thought the movie needed these exchanges, and it helped me with the character losses of Wash and Book because it lets you know right away that the crew of Serenity will be okay. They will make a new normal and have new adventures.

DATALESS

Friday, October 21, 2005 3:49 AM

I now love Serenity even more if it could make an eleven year old cry. I have to see it again. I can picture it the little girl walking out of the theater crying and daddy trying to confort her but failing miserably. It does my heart good. I bet she owned a copy of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas before the AO rating change too.

AUXARC

Friday, October 21, 2005 3:54 AM

I just wanted to add that Wash almost had to die the place and way that he did. If he (or any other character) had died from a reaver at the end only to find out five minutes later that River was able to kill all the Reavers when she concentrated on the deed or was properly motivated the audience would really have hated the ending. Injuries that would later get better is a lot more acceptable that a preventable character death to the general public.

FLYINGTAMS

Friday, October 21, 2005 4:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
Excuse me, can you think of a more confrontational thread title than "Joss Made My 11-yr-old Daughter Cry"? Well, all right "Joss Whedon is a complete bastard and emotional stunted my daughter" would be worse but still, it was a personalised attack and more than that, it was just another negative thread started purely for the reason of knocking the movie again.

This site is supposedly devoted to Firefly and Serenity fandom. We do not need fifteen new threads a day about how disappointed someone was in the movie. Or would you prefer it if everyone just poured out their bile on a daily basis?

You are the one who came across as an asshole here.

MER

Friday, October 21, 2005 2:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
I advise you to sue. Sue Joss, sue Universal. Your daughter has obviously suffered psychological damage and you need to be compensated.

You're just saying that so Serenity gets some viewers in, aren't ya? Anything that people complain about being offense gets viewers in...like South Park when it first started.

But this is a serious subject. Everybody already said what was necessary, I don't need to add my view to make the woman feel any worse.

MALSWAY

Friday, October 21, 2005 7:16 PM

Joss has made me cry often. It's one of the reasons I'm such a huge fan. Anyone who can make me care about (fictional) people like Joss does, deserves my emotional response.

Heck, even after seeing the Buffy season 2 finale - Becoming, Part 2 - uncountable times, I still cry EVERY TIME I see it.

Thanks, Joss!

MER

Friday, October 21, 2005 11:19 PM

Oh my god lol. It's really funny for me while rewatching any of his shows I absolutely know whee and which scene I'll cry in. You can here me say, "Damn it!" as tears start to fall.

I first accounted this while rewatching Season 2 some yrs ago. God I'm right on cue.

CAUSAL

Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by firefloozysuzie:
But I must add: Does everyone who is upset require their OWN LITTLE VENTING THREAD? C'mon, already. Get over yourselves. If you want to piss and moan and grieve and rip your clothes over Wash etc., do it in one of the many, many other threads where you'll have the company of other teeth-gnashers. This proliferation of whiner threads? Annoying, very annoying.

At the risk of offending everybody whose posts I skip, I've decided that Susie is absolutely right on this score. I'm already in enough turmoil over box office results. I don't need a lot of whinging over the way the plot went. Yeesh!

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