GAH! It's just... no... that's so wrong...

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UNSARDONIC

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ananti:
Well there is that role for Wonder Woman, she's supposed to be graceful and elegant, right?

well...

I DO seem to remember that W.W. was kinda ...muscle-bound, eh?

HOHOHO

ANANTI

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:43 AM

Remember Linda Hamilton in T2?

Any personal trainer can take care of that in 3-4 month.

THATWEIRDGIRL

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:49 AM

I hearby officially challenge Morena for the role of WW...mud wrestle...winner takes all.

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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:49 AM

No offense to the actors involves, but I'm frank and insensitive, so I tells it as I sees it. This is a troll warning, so if a trolling post upset you, don't read it.

[Enter the Troll]

That was a fairly bad ep. of sliders, I didn't remember her as so bad in it, but it's hard to tell. Morena has yet to wow me. Except from a schwing perspective. But I mean seriously, as an actor. Some people Joss likes and thinks are good I sometimes see as androids. There's all this emotional tension possible, but I don't get it. It's like buffy and angel. Sarah was being this emotional fountain next to this cardboard david. It was almost comic. Perhaps part of the reason that this relationship, mal+inara, is so tedious to me is that neither character is at all emotional in a convincing way. I know they're both sort of tough exterior kind of characters, but like willow and tara were emotional overkill. allyson and amber were terrific. Willow and Oz worked well, because allyson was fantastic, and seth was a stone wall, intentionally.
Mal and Inara is still the most boring cute people match up I've seen on a Joss show. It's like something out of baywatch, seriously.

I wouldn't mind it if this somehow got interesting. I would hate to think the relationship was attracting interest because the actors were cute, or even because people liked the characters and wanted them to be happy. Maybe I'm the only person who doesn't see it, but if anyone else is in doubt of this fascinating element, please post any ideas you have on how to make it interesting, on the hopes Joss might pick it up, because right now, I'm drawing a blank.

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SPOOKYJESUS

Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:25 AM

The original Inara.....

"GAH! It's just... no... that's so wrong..." indeed.

GERSHOM

Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:58 AM

Don't get me wrong, she is a very pretty woman but wrong for that particular part - as another possibly more worldly companion possibly... I just think that Joss made the right call when he decided to look elsewhere for that particular part...

"Every heist, he's gotta start yelling my name..."

MIRAND

Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:13 PM

After nearly one Season (And maybe a Film) for us Morena became Inara. And the Character of Inara is inseparable connected to the look and behavior of Morena.
Even if there would have been an better Actor its now to late to recognize him.

CRUSADER

Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:30 PM

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I agree. I couldn't see anyone, barring none of the big name actresses in Hollywood, that could have brought Inara to life the way Morena has done. I don't know of anyone that could have pulled off the grace and dignity of Inara the way Morena has done.

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I'm damned glad there are no "A" list's involved in the series. These actors have just as much to offer creatively. As Wheedon reflected, it was the chemistry among the cast that made the show what it is. If a $20 Mil/movie celeb were thrust into the bivouac, no good could come of it.

So I guess I am saying that I disagree with the notion that any major star could have succeeded where Morena has. She nailed the role, the chemistry with the cast/crew and it shows.

I guess as an actor, I'm a bit biased in this regard. I love to see unknowns cast in large scale movies. There's too much talent out there to be overshadowed by a handful of celebs like scienTOMogist Cruise.

(I'm nit-picking, I know. In essence, I agree that she was perfect for the roll, so we are pretty close to the same page

)

CRUSADER

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No offense to the actors involves, but I'm frank and insensitive, so I tells it as I sees it. This is a troll warning, so if a trolling post upset you, don't read it.

[Enter the Troll]

That was a fairly bad ep. of sliders, I didn't remember her as so bad in it, but it's hard to tell. Morena has yet to wow me. Except from a schwing perspective. But I mean seriously, as an actor. Some people Joss likes and thinks are good I sometimes see as androids. There's all this emotional tension possible, but I don't get it. It's like buffy and angel. Sarah was being this emotional fountain next to this cardboard david. It was almost comic. Perhaps part of the reason that this relationship, mal+inara, is so tedious to me is that neither character is at all emotional in a convincing way. I know they're both sort of tough exterior kind of characters, but like willow and tara were emotional overkill. allyson and amber were terrific. Willow and Oz worked well, because allyson was fantastic, and seth was a stone wall, intentionally.
Mal and Inara is still the most boring cute people match up I've seen on a Joss show. It's like something out of baywatch, seriously.

I wouldn't mind it if this somehow got interesting. I would hate to think the relationship was attracting interest because the actors were cute, or even because people liked the characters and wanted them to be happy. Maybe I'm the only person who doesn't see it, but if anyone else is in doubt of this fascinating element, please post any ideas you have on how to make it interesting, on the hopes Joss might pick it up, because right now, I'm drawing a blank.

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Well if that was a Troll, it was a weak one

Seriously, your criticism is valid and well stated lacking the insulting quality of a typical e-troll.

I do however, respectfully disagree.

If I can flip into drama-professor mode for a moment

(ahem)

Morena does employ a high level of skill in her performance, especially noted throughout the series. To get technical, she uses a technique called layering. A very difficult tool.

On the surface she would seem to be completely disinterested in, and even repulsed by her co-star (Mal). Yet, we see in her performance, that she is actually quite in love with him. But she never carries it so far as to be obvious to the other character, yet we, as an audience, can see it quite clearly. A very difficult balance to achieve. It is my opinion that she does so admirably, as does Nathan. "Emotion" is a tag term used to describe the talents of a lot of actors, but there's really SO much more to it than wearing your heart on your sleeve. Subtlety is far more challenging that a good crying fit. she carries this off by focusing on her character's intentions, needs, desires. The moment an actor begins to focus on how they should "feel" or "be," they sacrifice an essential connection to the story.

Stanislavski (the father of modern method acting) always used to say that (paraphrasing) "there is no character, there is only you. And you are far more interesting to watch than any character you could invent." The more an actor pulls out of him/herself, the more engaging the performance. Morena would have learned this at Juilliard, the best performing arts school in the world.

Believe me, this opinion has nothing to do with her aesthetic appeal. I cringe at the sight of the infestation of eye-candy floundering their way through a performance without any training to guide them.

So there it is. I apologize if I came off somewhat stuffy, it's the only way I know of to clearly state my opinion.

Anyhow, that is my very subjective assessment, for the sake of discussion.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:11 PM

I didn't want to actually BE a troll, just the slightly trollish nature of the post, I wanted to warn the potentially offended.

[more trollish post]

When I look at Inara, once I get over the physical hotness, I see:

1. A whiny bitch who cannot stop nagging and whining, she reminds me of my grandmother

2. Not just a whore, but one who boinks every gheap pretty boy asshole slut in the know universe.

3. A self inportant superficial snob who expects everyone to lick her boots.

And Mal's part in this relationship is to me the incredibly whipped cuckold dupe who provides her with a taxi service so she can boink everyone else who meets the standard of being born rich and obnoxious, while making Mal miserable.

Okay, people want this relationship to develop? Here's how I would like to see the relationship develop: I would be blissfully happy if Mal would take her to the cargo bay and chuck her out the airlock. I think she's earned that.

It's not an emotional point for me at all, I'm just sick of the whining whoring bitchfest. If Jayne behaved like that he'd be out the airlock, oh wait, yeah that's right.

But I guess I made that pretty clear.

Here are some better ideas. Wash and Zoe is only bothersome in that Wash is a completely whipped pansy while Zoe wheres the pants in the family, while Wash is the bitch who gets her a beer so she can watch the game, figuratively speaking. But it's interesting, as a relationship, it has many strong interesting developable story points. And it doesn't make me sit there getting ticked off at Zoe for pushing Wash around. I don't get annoyed at Wash for getting pushed, because he tries to push back. And there's the whole Mal element. So sure, this is interesting.

Mal and Inara is not. At the moment Inara has nothing going for her. Aside from being mad hot. But, consider, if this were a story in text, in a book, Inara would have nothing going for her, at all. And between them these is nothing except that Mal is a class a bitch-slapped whipping boy.

Here are some more interesting choices for Mal

Saffron
Kaylee
River
Book
A trio with simon and kaylee
A gay marriage to Niska

I think you get my point, which is virtually anything.

The only one of those which is serious is the saffron one, though Mal+River as someone posted earlier, would not be a terrible idea.

[end of troll]

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