If I might make an observation

POSTED BY: SerenityValley
UPDATED: Sunday, October 16, 2005 02:02
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SERENITYVALLEY

Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:46 PM

Have you noticed a trend in the bad guys of Firefly/Serenity? Not the minor bad guys, but the main "big bads". They don't die. Niska's not dead. Patience is still around. Badger's not dead (thankfully). We never saw Early die. Ath is alive.

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Even frickin' Dobson had a come back -- and who knows if he's really dead again. And then the Operative.

I wouldn't be surprised if they all showed up one day together.

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JAKE7

Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:15 PM

Um...

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Dobson was shot in the head. There's no way he was still alive when they threw him off Serenity in the pilot episode. Where did you see him come back?

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DONCOAT

Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:33 PM

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Originally posted by jake7:
Um...
Where did you see him come back?

Um...

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In the comics.

EMBERS

Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
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Originally posted by jake7:
Um...
Where did you see him come back?
Um...
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In the comics.

seriously Jake, you HAVE to read the comics!

And DonCoat: you mean you don't want to see Niska again?
Personally I love me my bad guys...

come on...aren't we all dying to see YoSafBridge again???

JAKE7

Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:35 PM

Thanks! I guess so! They're on my list along with the Visual Companion and the novelization of the movie.

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DONCOAT

Friday, October 14, 2005 9:37 AM

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And DonCoat: you mean you don't want to see Niska again?
Personally I love me my bad guys...

Huh? Of course I do! And I want new bad guys, and not-sure-whether-they're-bad-guys-or-not, and all sorts of other characters.

I was just answering the question about Dobson is all. Don't know how you got the idea I was disagreeing with you. Sorry if I gave that impression inadvertently.

XEROGRAVITY

Friday, October 14, 2005 10:29 AM

Well if Firefly ever makes a series comeback it better be soon. Niska was lookin kinda crusty... don't imagine he'll be with us much longer.

Sorry I didn't buy into the "Oracle" replacement boatload of manure from Matrix.

Run away. Ruhhhhhhhhn away.

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I kind of wonder if they didn't kill off Book cuz maybe Whedon is hedging his bets. Maybe the show can come back, but Ron Glass might be all corpsified by then. No disrespect intended... love the old fella, grew up watching him on Barney Miller. He still remains a marvelous actor, but let's face it. Resurrecting Firefly feels a lil bit like trying to raise the Titanic at the moment. Might happen, but if it does it's looking like a long-term effort.

Eh. Book is dead anyhow. Point is moot.

Such a waste.

XG

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

EMBERS

Friday, October 14, 2005 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Don't know how you got the idea I was disagreeing with you. Sorry if I gave that impression inadvertently.

oh my bad...I misunderstood...I'm sorry DonCoat!

anyway I was just thinking that Joss likes to keep his options open,
and the very best bad guys return to fight another day....

But ZeroGravity:

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I don't think Ron Glass is very old, I think he is just in his fiftes, I doubt if anyone is planning on his kicking it in the near future!
BUT he was one of the more reluctant to sign on for three movies,
we are told that everyone signed on for all three,
but it could be that Joss was respecting that reluctance.
Ron Glass has a foundation he created & runs which takes a lot of his time & energy so I'm not sure he wanted the committment to making future films that 'Serenity' represented.
But of course I don't KNOW anything, just there are rumors that float around.
Personally I think Book will return, in back story or as a clone....
(this is Sci-fi of course)

DANTE144

Friday, October 14, 2005 12:38 PM

Was Badger a bad guy? I thought he was still a business partner?

Who I want to see come back:

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I wantto see the operative come back in the third , or maybe the end of the second trilogy as a good gut or at least as someone who helps the crew. That Guy was fricken cool bad guy!

"Jesus saves, everyone else takes damage" -tee shirt some girl was wearing at Megacon.

http://dantedreams.com <-my webcomic

STRAYBAT

Friday, October 14, 2005 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by SerenityValley:
Have you noticed a trend in the bad guys of Firefly/Serenity? Not the minor bad guys, but the main "big bads". They don't die. Niska's not dead. Patience is still around. Badger's not dead (thankfully). We never saw Early die. Ath is alive.
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Even frickin' Dobson had a come back -- and who knows if he's really dead again. And then the Operative.

I like that trend also. To add to it - YoSaffBridge is still alive (probably locked up), the Sheriff guy from The Message, the marshal from Jaynestown... Not to mention some not-so-bad, but equally annoyed folks like the former owner of the Lassetter...

I wouldn't be surprised if Patience were dead though.

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That Reaver ship quite likely would have hit Whitefall after Serenity got away from it at the end of the pilot.
And Whitefall was one of the places that The Operative had wiped out in the movie

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