I give: Angel rocks! Somebody hand me a spoiler...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 22:22
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AMYGDALA

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:37 AM

I was being a bit vague.

Select to view spoiler:

I meant only two friends, one was a real friend and didn't know what it was they were doing, one seemed to be a friend but wasn't

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See? I like vague.

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"She was naked, and all ... articulate."

GROOSALUGG

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:52 AM

Okay, gotcha. Based on the clarification, I'll go along with you on it, then.

EST120

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MikeyMo:
est120: You thought those were problems? Those were two of my favorite bits in seasons 4 and 5!

Not at all. I thought the oringal poster was interested in things that were major developments, not just things that annoyed other viewers. I think both of those points were ones that kind of shocked me when I first saw them, that is why I mentioned them.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:10 PM

Thanks everyone, I guess I'm prepared....

BDM spoilers were the only ones I needed to avoid Chrisisall

GROUNDED

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:11 PM

I'm not sure why you wanted to know any spoilers...

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:49 PM

It's like getting a shot. Some do better not knowing, and some, like me, want to look at the needle going in. This way I'm not shocked at a severe change in character or plot, which tends to make me want to go "Okay, I've had enough of this!"
Now I'll go "Well, I knew this was coming, but it's not the entire story here."

Call it my need to know.

Chrisisall, tossing in a Crow quote

GROUNDED

Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:26 PM

But would you have enjoyed the earlier seasons as much if you'd known what was happening? Or did you in fact know roughly what was happening?

CHRISISALL

Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:47 PM

I knew every major plot point in Buffy all the way up to the finale of S5, and it didn't bother me in the least- it's fantasy, and taken as such, I don't feel like I'm watching real people, like I do in FF/Serenity. For instance Doyle's departure from Angel- I knew it beforehand, but it still made me go "WHOAH!"- knowing in advance prepared me. I tend to resent being manipulated for the sake of manipulation, unless I'm prepared.
In Serenity's case, I felt real emotion for real death, I don't feel manipulated because the characters and their actions rang as true as real life (hard to achieve this feel with so much latex involved as in Buffy and Angel ).

Somehow it worked on Dark Angel, though Chrisisall

MIKEYMO

Friday, October 14, 2005 3:36 AM

Severe character change brings up the greatest character evolution I ever witnessed on television. Wesley might not seem like it now, but he becomes the biggest badass in the 'verse. Brilliantly.

Off to watch an episode...

"Be ashamed to die before you have scored some victory for humanity." -- Horace Mann

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, October 14, 2005 4:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
My wife said it was finely crafted with many layers, like a great play (she's a writer-type).
It DEMANDS repeat viewings!

Hey, that's what I said to all those naysayers who didn't like Serenity. Go see it again, I said. It's got layers, I said. Joss turns out to be a playwright, I said. Ahhhh...vindicated.

I was going to start a thread called, "I thought Joss was a doughy hack til I saw Serenity." I wanted to talk about how the movie shows that Joss is not simply an entertaining TV/soap opera writer after all. The problem, if you will, with Serenity is that it feels more like a play disguised as a movie. It's unexpected, so naturally, people are going to be disappointed. But if you see the same story in a theatre where people watch plays by Ibsen and Williams and Shaw... then Zoe's muted grief becomes profound. I digress.... Maybe I oughta start that thread after all.

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