Two things struck me on the fourth viewing tonight. (mild spoilers)

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UPDATED: Thursday, October 13, 2005 19:07
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JAKE7

Tuesday, October 4, 2005 4:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Embassy:
1: Book's line in response to Mal's "Someday you have to tell me about.." is "No, I don't."

Totally off topic, but this is driving me NUTS!

Did anyone catch what Book's very last words were to Mal. This is after the "belive in SOMETHING"

I've only seen the movie twice (plan to see it many more) but both times I couldn't hear what he said and it's driving me buggy!

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MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

DONCOAT

Tuesday, October 4, 2005 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jake7:
Totally off topic, but this is driving me NUTS!

Did anyone catch what Book's very last words were to Mal. This is after the "belive in SOMETHING"

I've only seen the movie twice (plan to see it many more) but both times I couldn't hear what he said and it's driving me buggy!

I know, I know!

(It's in the Visual Companion.)

BOOK: I don't care what you believe. Just... believe it. Whatever you have to.

SHINY

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 12:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by weichi:
My suspicion is that Book was an Operative, but we have no actual proof.

There is 'proof' in the novelization...

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Serenity is coming. 9/30/05.

SERENITYVALLEY

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 12:22 AM

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So, obviously he was telling Mal that he won't see him ever again.

Yeah, that's what Lindsey McDonald said too...

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

BOOKSWORD

Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:17 AM

Evil hand is good.

Seriously if I was the Parliment I would be a bit worried that a highly trained and highly motivated Operative might want to settle some Karmic balance on my purple butt.

The guilty will be punished.

And punished hard.

ZOOT

Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jake7:

Totally off topic, but this is driving me NUTS!

Did anyone catch what Book's very last words were to Mal. This is after the "belive in SOMETHING"

I've only seen the movie twice (plan to see it many more) but both times I couldn't hear what he said and it's driving me buggy!

--------------
MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

I have the shooting script right here (visual companion)and he says:

"I don't care what you believe. Just believe it. Whatever you have to ..."

But watching the movie, all 3 times, I thought he said "whatever she does ...." i.e. believe whatever River does ... but there ya go ...

open to interpretation, I guess

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.

JAKE7

Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zoot:
Quote:
Originally posted by jake7:

Totally off topic, but this is driving me NUTS!

Did anyone catch what Book's very last words were to Mal. This is after the "belive in SOMETHING"

I've only seen the movie twice (plan to see it many more) but both times I couldn't hear what he said and it's driving me buggy!

--------------
MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

I have the shooting script right here (visual companion)and he says:

"I don't care what you believe. Just believe it. Whatever you have to ..."

But watching the movie, all 3 times, I thought he said "whatever she does ...." i.e. believe whatever River does ... but there ya go ...

open to interpretation, I guess

***************************************

Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.

Thanks. I thought it got cut off (third time was the charm, think) But hey, if I can manage a fourth viewing this weekend, I'll have to listen hard to it *again*

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MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

THECRAZYIVAN

Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:03 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by weichi:
My suspicion is that Book was an Operative, but we have no actual proof.

There is 'proof' in the novelization...

Its mild proof...but it gives you soemthing to chew on.

Read novelization for more!

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"There is a sense that this is still not over. It's hard to put a finger on what's so special about this project and about this group of people, but it's just one of those things you have to trust in, and relish. I am very, very proud."
---Jewel Staite on "Firefly" and "Serenity" in "Finding Serenity" (essay collection by Jane Espenson)

DONCOAT

Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jake7:
Thanks. I thought it got cut off (third time was the charm, think) But hey, if I can manage a fourth viewing this weekend, I'll have to listen hard to it *again*

I agree. I think the actual line as filmed is: "Just believe it. Whatever you..."

Makes things a bit more ambiguous. And heart-wrenching, in a "What was he going to say? Now we'll never know" sort of way.

I wonder if this was a Ron Glass suggestion, or if it was filmed a number of different ways and Joss chose this one?

CAPTAINCDC

Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Embassy:
On the fifth viewing, I had a different read on a couple of lines, which is fun.

1: Book's line in response to Mal's "Someday you have to tell me about.." is "No, I don't." The first few times, I read that as Book keeping his past private. Now I read that as Book's acknowledgement that Mal already knows.

2: "Love keeps her in the air..." isn't as much Mal talking about Serenity as it is Joss talking about Firefly itself.

Very interesting. I think there is some truth to both obversations.

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