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New Fan! (Where the hell have I been?)

POSTED BY: Melsy
UPDATED: Friday, October 14, 2005 16:18
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Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:50 AM

Hey, just found this site in my google of Firefly. I'm glad there is such a dedicated fan base for this film/series. My husband and I went to see Serenity last weekend, we'd never heard of Firefly before - just saw the Movie Trailers.

We loved it, found out it used to be a series and went straight to Best Buy, plopped down our 40 bucks and bought the DVD!!!

We watched the pilot "Serenity" and the Train Job episode. We are HOOKED!! But as there are only a few episodes we are going to watch only 1 per month so we can drag it out as long as possible... hopefully there will be another movie by the time we finish (though I doubt we will have the self restraint to only watch 1 per month).

You know my husband and I just sat there after the first two episodes and talked about how much we really enjoyed the show... Totally refreshing I have just two questions (well many, but I won't go into all) how the hell does such a quality, unique show like Firefly get on the air without us knowing about it and how the hell does it get cancelled with all the BS shows on TV these days????? TV is such crap these days we don't watch much of it. Okay, that's my little rant. I don't know where the hell I was when this was on the air, but sure did miss a great show, thank God for DVD!

Thanks!

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:58 AM

It was on for only 11 weeks, and on friday nights. Poor advertising and broadcast schedules with lots of rescheduling is probalby why you didn't hear about it.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:03 AM

Welcome! Glad to have more browncoats on board. The series just keeps getting better as you watch it (my favorite episode is actually the last one, “Objects in Space”).

If you want a sequel, though, be sure to recommend Serenity to all your friends and maybe see it again (if you want to). We’re kinda on the bubble financially, so we need all the help we can get for sequels.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:09 AM

There are few fans of quality left.

Tonight at 8:00

Primal Survival

Plot: Spider Monkeys seek to mate with the cutest other monkeys which speedo clad men and women with round buttocks talk in an incomprehensible california suburbanite speech. Take a look through our 8 simulcast cameras at the plastic jungle created in an unused aviary at the San Diego Zoo.

No, seriously guys. Quality programming is in trouble because it costs money to produce, and brainless mops will watch whatever.

But it's okay to watch episodes more often than that, because you can rewatch them

If you run out you have all of buffy, which admittedly isn't firefly, but it is Joss.

And firefly will be back in fall of '06, just in time for out biblically-mandated withdrawal from Iraq.

Or so says I.

I could be wrong.


I'm not exactly quaking in my stylish but affordable boots, but there's definitely something unnatural going on, which does not tend to lead to hugs and puppies.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gophermuncher:
It was on for only 11 weeks, and on friday nights. Poor advertising and broadcast schedules with lots of rescheduling is probalby why you didn't hear about it.



That might explain it, I think we may have been watching Star Trek... (which wasn't all that great)

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StakeTheLurk:
Welcome! Glad to have more browncoats on board. The series just keeps getting better as you watch it (my favorite episode is actually the last one, “Objects in Space”).

If you want a sequel, though, be sure to recommend Serenity to all your friends and maybe see it again (if you want to). We’re kinda on the bubble financially, so we need all the help we can get for sequels.



Already done, I'm a walking billboard! I'm even lending out my DVDs.

Thanks for the welcome!

I'll be lurking here and there on this site, I'm not a posting kinda person, but I'll be back to check things out and see what's going on.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:29 AM

Welcome, Melsy (and Melsy's mister, too). The Browncoat cadre is always happy to have new recruits!

I was one who was lucky enough to find Firefly right off the bat (though I didn't start posting here until recently). I watched "The Train Job" the day it aired. But I know a lot of rabid science fiction fans who never even knew about it until it was already gone.

Why? Well, as you can imagine, we've been down this road a few times. To sum it up:

Fox did a terrible job promoting Firefly before it aired.
Fox aired Firefly on Friday night.
Fox showed the episodes out of order.
Fox preempted Firefly several times, sometimes for two or three weeks in a row, for baseball playoff games.
Fox gave no warning or reassurance that Firefly would be back when they preempted it. (I gave up on it, thinking it was cancelled after being preempted for weeks on end, only to find out it wasn't -- after I missed some episodes! And I was trying to watch every episode.)
Fox aired only 11 episodes of the 14 that were made.
Fox aired the pilot episode, 'Serenity', last.
Fox cancelled Firefly before they ever gave it a chance to gain an audience.

Do you start to detect a pattern here?

But we're not bitter. Oh no.

Still, there might have been a few reasons that weren't Fox's fault. For example: Firefly was a sharply imagined, smart show with great writing and acting -- it really succeeded in drawing you into a wholly believable other-world. No wonder it went right over the heads of most viewers weaned on such challenging fare as "Married With Children".

So where does that leave us? Well... in the company of thousands of people like you who "get it". It's up to us to make the suits (at Fox, Universal, or elsewhere) understand what a great thing they messed up, and give them no choice but to give Firefly/Serenity another chance.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:47 AM

So this originally aired on Fox? I thought it may have been on the Sci-Fi Channel originally - limited distribution. But Fox had it on and screwed it up with preemptions???? They did that with 24 the first season. Unbelievable!

I don't think you have to be a Sci-Fi fan to enjoy Firefly/Serenity. Among the reasons I enjoyed it so was that it wasn't the sterotypical weird alien, techno gizmo sci-fi flick... that stuff really gets old and is a sure fire turn-off.

I haven't done my homework on this show yet, I am usually a research geek. Gotta find out everything about anything to satisfy my curiosity. I'm purposefully not reading a lot of posts and comments on the series because I don't want to find out what's on the episodes I've yet to watch. I'm really savioring the few episodes we have...

Thanks for the anwers to my queries... I'll be up to speed in about a years time if I stick to my plan :)

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:58 AM

welcome!
Yeah, Firefly was pre-empted for Baseball most of the Fall, and then canceled in December...

it was a full year before the DVDs came out

(but we already knew that Universal was letting Joss make a movie, that had been announced that Sept)

don't bother dragging the DVDs out, instead: enjoy them and rewatch them,
many many times.

And then watch the movie many many times.

And read the comic books (series of 3 published by Dark Horse, called 'Serenity')

and have you watched the pre-quel videos?:
http://www.session416.com/mirrors
or
http://www.hittarivertam.nu/

enjoy! (and welcome)

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:13 AM

RANT
I have a serious concern about the sci-fi channel. They cancel everything good, they monkeyed with farscape, and they seem to totally kill everything they inherit. To wit, Outer limits and SG-1 which both took serious dives after appearing on the sci-fi channel. I'd be much more comfortable with HBO, or Shotime, Beyond, any of hte smaller networks, WB, UPN, or some sort of renegotiation with FOX. Major Network TV always sucks, so I would scratch off ABC CBS and NBC since I can't remember a program that appeared on any of those channels which didn't suck
EOR

Anyway, I'm aware, beggers can't be choosers, I just think some thought should go into this. We don't want to begin a program to aggressively lobby a channel which might exert an undue amount of executive control over Joss, forcing him to produce a mediocre product.

Let me give a very pertinent example.

Farscape. An awesome show. But also this.

Aeryn Sun + John Chrighton.

I don't dislike these characters. It's not my favorite match up, but that's not my point.

It was badly done. It was dreary. It was endless. It was Spelling-esque.

The whole reason for all of this focus on the soap opera aspect of the relationship for the show was sci fi channel demanded it. They scanned the boards, saw that most of the posters were aeryn john romos, and changed the storyline accordingly.

The romos are a web phenomenon, and in no way respresentative of the avg. viewing audience, no offence to the romos out there. (You know who you are- Mal+Inara is more important to you than the fact that River is an assassin or that the alliance is trying to brainwash the human race)

Which is a valid choice, to be a romo, but it's not the only choice.

It's a minor detail, but it much better not to have some TV exec. particularly Bonnie Hammer, making these calls and holding Joss to them.

If we do end up expending actual effort to revive the show, let's make sure that it is the solution which grants the most Joss freedom. The if Joss wants to send someone to the boards and here what we have to say he can, and if he wants to abandon the whole alliance story to focus on Spelling drama between Mal and Inara, he can, but at least it won't be a network exec with a wallet to his head saying you're going to follow this storyline.





No Power in the 'verse can stop me.

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