Give Up Now (And Avoid The Rush).

POSTED BY: RocketJock
UPDATED: Thursday, October 13, 2005 16:49
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SOUPCATCHER

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:54 PM

I go with number 4 myself. The wailing lamentation thing. (reread as, "Love let's you know she's hurting before she complains.")

Oh, and loved the original post.

* edited to remove some keening of my own. And to change my post slightly since I read yours too fast.

HEB

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:58 PM

I'm pretty sure he says keens and that's confirmed in the visual companion.

He could mean keen in the context 'to express grief verbally' ie. tell you she;s hurting (not sure if that fits) or to hurt in a similar usaage to it's sharp usage.

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Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
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I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

SPINLAND

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:58 PM

Wailing lament; as in, when Kaylee says Serenity talks to her, tells her when something's wrong.

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"That's what governments are for, [to] get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:02 PM

Get people hooked on the show. I think it's far more addictive than a movie can be. If they end up buying a collection that's $34 and probably another $12 if they buy the movie when it comes out on DVD.

I've had excellent luck making buffy addicts out of everyone from high school kids to grandmothers. Firefly also. Joss is addictive. Like crack cocaine or something. I don't know, never experienced crack, but that's not the point.

[WARNING - OFFENSIVE TROLL LANGUAGE AHEAD]

I just want to take a moment to slam the star wars trolls, because before coming here i was spending all my time on the IMDb boards, and they were slamming us constantly. Well here it is.

I saw Star Wars. It was the first film I ever saw. It was great. It kicked ass. Then I saw Empire. That was awesome. Then I saw Jedi. It was cheezy. Leia's outfit was hot, but the film was cheezy.

Luke was annoying and so was Leia, and even Han. Three movies and my favorite character was either a gay robot or bigfoot. But still, it was a lot of fun. Then I met the star wars freaks. They played battlegames with ships, which I can see.

Then they dressed up as Boba Fett for Halloween. Then they did it NOT on Halloween. Boba Fett. Who is Boba Fett? Oh yeah the bounty hunter.

"Boba Fett is the best man. He's the most awesome character!"

Excuse me but character? Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't this guy get like one line in three movies? Something like that. Anyway. I come off thinking the films fans pumped out their cerebral fluid and replaced it with a mix of antifreeze and drano.

Now I see Episode I. Amidala is Natalie, who is hot. Jarjar grates. Aniken is a twit. But it doesn't suck. Except for the obvious promotional pod race scene. This says "hey we've already made the video game to this, and now here comes an ad for it in the middle of the movie." It's not about to make me walk out, but only because it has cool special effects. Not because there's a story left.

Now there's a new so what bad guy - Darth Maul, aka Toad. He gets one line. He isn't all that tough to kill. But he looks cool. I liked his double lightsaber thing. But now antifreeze-drano-heads are emulating this one liner? I begin to think they are also snorting coca cola. Or glue.

The I see Ep. 2. Aniken is more of a twit that he used to be. Natalie is still Natalie, unaging. The film is tollerable. Then I see Ep 3. The dialogue, written by lucas himself, is amazingly amazingly bad, Natalie's Leia hair is almost worse. The best party of this movie is watching the cardboard characters get chopped into little pieces.

So, star wars fans. I enjoyed those movies. Yes, all six of them. Even the really bad one. Or one. But the reall really bad one. But they were a lot of fun. But what is there to obsess over? I mean I cannot see that there are really characters in this story? Archetypes maybe.

I mean the trekkies were somewhat offputting about their identification with completely flat and sterile characters, but at least those character did exist, they weren't some fan concocted fantasy based on one fairly meaningless line.

[END OFFENSIVE TROLL LANGUAGE]

So that's it. Trolls will be troll, and I had to vent somewhere where they could not track me down and kill me. That's all.

I'm going to kill them all. That oughtta distract 'em.

STAKETHELURK

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:08 PM

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Get people hooked on the show. I think it's far more addictive than a movie can be. If they end up buying a collection that's $34 and probably another $12 if they buy the movie when it comes out on DVD.

I agree, the show is the best way to recruit people, but it works a tad slow and we need butts in the theaters NOW. We should use "Firefly" as a major recruiting tool a bit later, to prep for the BDM's DVD release.

But, I want point this out for people who might not know: Money spent towards the "Firefly" DVD does not go to Universal. At this point, they probably aren't even paying attention to the increasing DVD sales, because it's not a source of income for them. So that $34, not matter how well spent, is not going to the people who will decide whether to make a sequel or not.

ROCKETJOCK

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by GatorMarc:
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Originally posted by RocketJock:

These thirteen episodes are the end of the line.

Sweet. I got a bonus episode on my discs :)

GatorMarc

Eat 'em up, chomp, chomp.

Sorry dude. Serenity Pts I & II only counts as one episode.

"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

BJAY

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:38 PM

Well i sure as hell aint given up. If living in a dreamworld can get firefly on the big screen then maybe it can get firefly back on air. Well it looks like im going to be living in a dreamworld. I dont care if this movie ends up being the next geli im still going to do what ever it takes to convince someone to put firefly back on the air. But hes got a good point guys, I guess ill just give up and let the show i love so much Die. Na im going to be with this show to the bitter end.

STRANGEONE

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:44 PM

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But, I want point this out for people who might not know: Money spent towards the "Firefly" DVD does not go to Universal. At this point, they probably aren't even paying attention to the increasing DVD sales, because it's not a source of income for them. So that $34, not matter how well spent, is not going to the people who will decide whether to make a sequel or not.

Yes, this is true, however, also important, sales of Firefly BoxSets are something to point to if one wishes to encourage a network, like say, SciFi, to make new episodes. Pointing out the fact that it's selling more box sets longer than SciFi's SG-1 Season 8 seems like it should make a good point for bringing back a TV series. (not sure on this point, anyone got hard numbers) Which is something SciFi should already start considing, as I don't think SG-1 will be around much longer, and they'll need a good anchor for Friday nights. (9 seasons, I think it's just about run it's course.)

Hmmmm.... Choice... Support new tv series or sequel. The correct answer is, of course, BOTH!! :) though if it comes down to it, I'd pick a new TV series over a sequal, cause, IMHO, a tv show seems a better format for it.

CLJOHNSTON108

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Then they dressed up as Boba Fett for Halloween. Then they did it NOT on Halloween. Boba Fett. Who is Boba Fett? Oh yeah the bounty hunter.

"Boba Fett is the best man. He's the most awesome character!"

Excuse me but character? Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't this guy get like one line in three movies? Something like that.

The funny irony about Boba Fett is that he originated in the animated sequence of the dreaded "Star Wars Holiday Special", which I'm ashamed to admit was produced and the music arranged by several friends of my Dad (who was a TV set designer (although he wasn't involved in the "production", thank the stars!))

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:05 AM

But it's not going to help anyone if we move an entire people who's favorite films are Honey, Gigli, Glitter and From Justin to Kelly over to a theater to see Serenity, and then they go on to IMDb and trash it. There are many ways to convince people that the following is large.

If the DVD sold a million copies

What if they gave a convention and 200,000 people showed up.

Like for instance, what if you had an online community with 5 million members. That would be a selling point.

If every vampire who said he was at the crucifiction were actually there, it would've been like woodstock.

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