Could Season Two (if made) be in a different continuity?

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UPDATED: Thursday, October 13, 2005 18:42
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GEEKMAFIA

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:12 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
I really don't get it. I don't see much continuity problem with the movie at all. The only problem I have is with Jayne treating Simon nicely and once again trying to get rid of River. It's as if his role in Ariel was cut out a bit. Other than that the movie follows Firefly perfectly fine.

I would love another movie or a season that starts where Serenity left off.

I was going to say something but thanks to Zeek i don't have to. all i can say is my sentiments exactly.

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BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:29 PM

I would say no. Honestly I would not change anything that Joss has done, nor do I think it would be right to. It is Joss' 'verse, his characters, and his story. Things happened the way he saw best for them to unfold. To change anything would be to take it out of his hands & I wouldn't dream of doing it.

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ROCKETJOCK

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:55 PM

IMHO, fill-in stories should be limited to flashbacks only; but there's plenty of room to use such liberally. (Picture a storyline showing how The Operative adjusts to life "On the Rim", now that he is no longer the parliment's man; I can easily see flashbacks to Book's untold past being used as counterpoint to his passage. Just one example.)

And the idea of Serenity being "haunted" by the ghost/echo of Wash that only River can see tickles both my wife and myself.

But as for the idea of disowning the movie, well...

Serenity shocked a lot of people because of the Two Big Spoilers; some of those folk were so rattled they decided the movie was worthless, even if they'd been enjoying themselves up until then. Some of those have since come around to enjoying the film, some not.

Others, a smaller group that the first, I think, honestly don't like the flick for reasons of personal taste.

Fair enough. Taste cannot be arbitrated or argued. If you no longer like the direction Joss has taken his 'Verse, then hail and fairwell, and I grieve that the journey ended sourly for you. But it's too late to rewrite history.

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HAZE

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:12 PM

The only I can say I truly hate about Serenity is the poster campaign. But that’s the fault of the ad men.

“We gotta get the teen age boys in so lets stick River in a low cut dress and have her holding a gun”. “No wait Iv got a better idea lets give her an ax and a big sword and have her strike a OTT martial arts post” “No wait lets do both and stick a gun in Kaylees’ hand while where at it”.

Another thing that’s annoying me is the focus of Rivers fight scenes as opposed to the character. Iv said it before and I’ll keep saying it, the fact she can kill people is the least important aspect of River.

The movies good it just didn’t grab me the way the TV did (and still does). But still you got to say its better than noting.

Who do you suppose is in there?

ROLAND

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:51 PM

This is for the people that are angry at Joss for supposedly ruining the Firefly verse by killing Book and Wash. Just because all 9 crew members survived to the end of the series does not mean they would have all survived if there had been more seasons. If you have watched Buffy or Angel, you know that his main characters do sometimes get killed. If there had been more Firefly seasons, characters would have died. Joss has never shied away from killing characters. He did not do anything any different than he has in his other series. He made them realistic. Which means that, sometimes, people die.

JASONZZZ

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sep7imus:
, it will include Book and Wash, and not in any sort of bring-them-back-from-the-dead or Wash's-twin-brother way.

Don't have to bring any body back from the dead assuming that they didn't really die in the first place.

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MAJORCLOD

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:12 AM

God damn some people get worked up about these characters dying. For crying out loud, people die, SHIT HAPPENS.

If future outings it will give us even more juicy material on how these characters are adjusting to these changes. I don't want to see any bringing back from the dead, I don't want Book and Wash's deaths to be cop outs. They died for a reason, it hurts sure, but move on.

Joss would have killed one of the crew early on anyway, its just the way he is. Watch Buffy or Angel, no one ever stays happy for very long at all.

Everyone is wondering how they can make a series without Wash and Book. Its simple, they won't be in it. Occasional flashbacks maybe, but thats it. I don't want to have to sacrifice story and surprise by making a prequel, just so that we can hear them speak.

It took balls for Joss to make those decisions, I highly doubt it was an easy choice for him.

JASONZZZ

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by MajorClod:

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Everyone is wondering how they can make a series without Wash and Book. Its simple, they won't be in it.

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Yeah, would have been pretty easy to write a story without those folks dying with pretty much the same story line. Just insert a random bunch of Red Shirts and would have about the same impact. "Shit! some body just got killed! Holey Crap, there goes another one" You get the idea. For all I care, he can put a body count stat in the upper right corner of the screen and have it increment each time bodies start dropping.

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Originally posted by MajorClod:

It took balls for Joss to make those decisions, I highly doubt it was an easy choice for him.

Don't know what the balls for the decision is for, but would have been just as easy to write it without any deaths and same story... Don't know, don't care what the point is.

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FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:42 PM

Others, a smaller group that the first, I think, honestly don't like the flick for reasons of personal taste.

That would be me, specifically the sense of "family" was missing, but let's repeat that, *personal* taste, personal, it's one persons opinion, mine - and unlike some people in this thread I have no intention of trying to force someone to share that opinion, so please have the decency to either grant the same courtesy and agree to disagree, or just shut the hell up, right-O ?
(This is directed at you, pottymouth.)

Fair enough. Taste cannot be arbitrated or argued. If you no longer like the direction Joss has taken his 'Verse, then hail and fairwell, and I grieve that the journey ended sourly for you. But it's too late to rewrite history.

Exactly, I am sure a lot of folk enjoyed the movie immensely, and more power to em, in fact I have held my tongue a couple times here so as not to turn folks off, cause the movie deserves a fair shot to new might-be-fans, but where I draw the line at fanhood is continuing to finance something that no longer appeals to me, that's just plain silly.

If you enjoy it, by all means go see it a couple more times and buy the DVD's, action figures (which I still might buy, maybe) and what have you, but there's no way to please everyone, and demanding that even the discontent shell out the $$$ is a bit over the top in my opinion - and in the end, it's $$$ that makes or breaks continuance of this story.

I don't mind at all certain events (left vague to avoid spoilers) rather than the whole 'feel' of the series has gone somewhere that no longer interests me, and when it quits holding my interest, I quit shelling out for it.

That's a personal expression, and a personal opinion, I sincercely hope other folk felt they got their moneys worth and give a nod to those who do wanna keep going in that direction even if I am gonna part ways.

Please have the decency to offer that same respect in return.

-Frem

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