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POSTED BY: maugwai
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 21:21
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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:05 AM

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Originally posted by maugwai:


I do agree about the Miracle comment. Why should a movie about hockey be made in the U.S?



Because it's not just a movie about hockey. It's a movie about an US victory over the Russians during the Cold War. The fact that the victory was in a hockey rink doesn't matter to the people who have strong feelings about the game and the win. To them it's a movie about the US winning over our enemy, and filming it anywhere but the US seems un-patriotic. (e.g., "We won against the Russians, but we lose the movie to the Canadians.")

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:55 AM

It's hard to know what the truth is anymore. I've read so many conflicting accounts of what happened with the FOX having the contract rights to the series. One thing that's for certain ~ they totally blew it, running the eps out of order, not promo'ng it enough, cancelling midseason without giving it time enough to find it's sea legs, etc. I believe Whedon should NEVER have given up on trying to get back the rights and shop it around to other channels. I wish he'd keep at it, and most important of all, put it on scifi chan. FOX is all sitcoms, reality shows, cop/doctor dramas, etc. (all the major networks are these days). FF is a niche market. How many people can honestly say they believe Stargate SG1 would have made it to the 9th season on any channel other than SciFi chan?

One other thing to remember... the contract with FOX is only 5 years. If he couldn't get the show aired elsewhere, he could've waited them out (and know his fans would wait with him). Build up the franchise while waiting, much the same way as Roddenberry did with Star Trek ~ merchandising, books/comics, and so on. Totally fan-driven.

Whedon is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't know it.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:21 PM

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
It's hard to know what the truth is anymore. I've read so many conflicting accounts of what happened with the FOX having the contract rights to the series. One thing that's for certain ~ they totally blew it, running the eps out of order, not promo'ng it enough, cancelling midseason without giving it time enough to find it's sea legs, etc. I believe Whedon should NEVER have given up on trying to get back the rights and shop it around to other channels. I wish he'd keep at it, and most important of all, put it on scifi chan. FOX is all sitcoms, reality shows, cop/doctor dramas, etc. (all the major networks are these days). FF is a niche market. How many people can honestly say they believe Stargate SG1 would have made it to the 9th season on any channel other than SciFi chan?

One other thing to remember... the contract with FOX is only 5 years. If he couldn't get the show aired elsewhere, he could've waited them out (and know his fans would wait with him). Build up the franchise while waiting, much the same way as Roddenberry did with Star Trek ~ merchandising, books/comics, and so on. Totally fan-driven.

Whedon is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't know it.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.



It IS hard to know the truth--which is the reason we shouldn't automatically make negative assumptions. I've heard that Whedon still would rather have done Firefly as a series instead of a movie, because he obviously has a whole lot of material that he wants to put in that he just can't do in two hours.
As far as rights are concerned, that's a losing battle. Just look at Siegel and Shuster--they never got the rights to Superman, even though they created him (back to the comic book metaphore). Now the copyright laws are much more creator friendly, but FOX isn't going to want to sell the rights to a show that's still making them money, especially now that there's a movie made that they didn't even have to finance. If the reasons for the cancellation of the show (and the craptacular way it was aired) is personal on FOX's side, that complicates the fight even more. Even Whedon's got to eat, and promoting and fighting a long-losing battle for Firefly isn't exactly a paying job.
I agree that the fans would have been there after the 5 years is up, but what about the actors? Five years is a long time to wait to be on a tv show.

It is a goldmine that Whedon's sitting on, but I think he realizes how precarius his perch is.

"I'm so hip I can't see over my pelvis!"

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