How do Reavers pilot ships, them being insane cannibals and such?

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DIEGO

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:34 PM

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Originally posted by RelFexive:
Here's how I see it... spoilerised, obviously.

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The first ones were those affected by the Pax Effect. If it generated a serious enough chemical imbalance, it could become a genetic effect, and be passed down to any offspring a Reaver has *shudder*

That's what I think.

I dunno, RelFexive, 'cause you see—

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that would imply some sort of Lamarckian process (inheritance of acquired characteristics). I just don't buy it.

On the other counts, I think you might be right. We simply don't know enough about Pax to know if the chemical is long-lasting and could have been brought with them. And if you're correct that there is residual Pax concentrated on Reaver ships then it may also be the more parsimonious explanation for reaver behavior being "passed on" (not genetically, but via the environment) to any offspring.[spoiler}

JUBELLATE

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:35 PM

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I really like your "pirates on acid" line!

And of course their short life-expectancy/high mortality rate brings up the question of recruitment. Where do new reavers come from? We saw how the severe trauma of surviving a Reaver attack can make a person become one (perhaps mimicking the biochemical instability in the brain?). But do Reavers have and raise their own offspring? And if so, is being raised by Reavers enough to make an individual a Reaver?

I don't think they do. See Spoiler

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After all, its only been 10 years since they became Reavers, therefore its more than likley the majority of Reavers are the same people that went crazy from the PAX. Most likely, the Parliment didn't do anything because they believed the threat would die out with them and they could covertly clean up the mess later.

DIEGO

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:37 PM

khimbar, cool article on the Reivers of the Scottish border!

DIEGO

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:47 PM

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Originally posted by JubelLate:

I don't think they do. See Spoiler

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After all, its only been 10 years since they became Reavers, therefore its more than likley the majority of Reavers are the same people that went crazy from the PAX. Most likely, the Parliment didn't do anything because they believed the threat would die out with them and they could covertly clean up the mess later.

Yeah, but that kind of live-fast, eat human flesh, and die young lifestyle has got to be hell on their population numbers. And I doubt they're making too many converts (a la "Bushwacked") in their raids.

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We don't know what the population size of Miranda was and that will make a huge difference in how many individuals a tenth of a percent adds up to. If the initial population size was large enough then your right that the question is moot.

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RELFEXIVE

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by Diego:
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Originally posted by RelFexive:
Here's how I see it... spoilerised, obviously.

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The first ones were those affected by the Pax Effect. If it generated a serious enough chemical imbalance, it could become a genetic effect, and be passed down to any offspring a Reaver has *shudder*

That's what I think.

I dunno, RelFexive, 'cause you see—

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that would imply some sort of Lamarckian process (inheritance of acquired characteristics). I just don't buy it.

On the other counts, I think you might be right. We simply don't know enough about Pax to know if the chemical is long-lasting and could have been brought with them. And if you're correct that there is residual Pax concentrated on Reaver ships then it may also be the more parsimonious explanation for reaver behavior being "passed on" (not genetically, but via the environment) to any offspring.

Well, I wasn't going all Lamarckian exactly... maybe it can effect their DNA, as I said.

Or, for a better answer, be carried to the unborn children through the blood they receive from their mother... yrch.

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HJERMSTED

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:58 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
I think of the Reavers as being 18th-century pirates on acid.

Probably closer to pirates on PCP than pirates on acid. People on PCP are impervious to pain and the Reavers do tend to disfugure themselves which has got to hurt a little.

If acid caused people to disfigure themselves (other than their intellects), there'd be a LOT of ugly-ass near-retirement age baby boomers running around today making present-day yoga classes a nightmare come true.

mattro

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:01 PM

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
To me it's obvious. Clearly, they are the direct descendants of New York City cab drivers.

Ha! - been to Detroit lately ?

At least NY Cabbies have some kind of decent certification, over here they'll stick anyone with a pulse behind the wheel.

And only in MI can you be detoured, onto a detour, that leads to yet another detour... that's CLOSED because of more (you guessed it) road construction.

MI has three seasons, winter, winter, and road construction, less than fondly known as "Orange Crush" because of those damned orange barrels crushing traffic into chokepoints.

I tell you - if there was a throwdown between MI drivers during orange crush and reavers, I would bet on the Michiganders with every dime.

Reavers are DETROIT cabbies, not New Yorkies..

-Frem

KAYLEEFRYE

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:21 PM

I'm not sure if this is really spoilery or not so

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Is it possible that the PAX got into their blood? I mean, with all that breathing it in and stuff, wouldn't it have to have gotten into their blood somehow?

And if that's true, it could become something like a disease that could be passed on from one generation to the next (if they have children)(gahh) or it could be passed, almost like vampirism, through a transfer of blood. IE, if a Reaver were to, say, have a bloody open gash on his face, as they are wont to do, and bit an "uninfected" person and got some of his blood in the wound, it is possible that the effect would spread. Of course, there would have to be more than a few drops of blood, and the person that was bitten (or scratched or sworded or whatever) would have to be of the personality type to be affected in such a way

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like the tenth of a percent of the population of Miranda who had the adverse reaction to the PAX. Maybe the Reavers can tell who will be affected the same way they were, and they can use that to their advantage. Maybe that's what really happened to that guy in Bushwacked, because I have a bit of a hard time believe that seeing acts like that would make a person become that, despite the Stockholm Syndrome. I should think that even less than a tenth of a percent of the population of the verse would react that way toward the deeds of Reavers.

Course, this is just a theory, and I could be totally wrong, as I don't really know all that much about medicine and the like.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:59 PM

Wow everyone on this thread has something unique and meaningful to say on the topic!!!
I understand the Reavers as never before!!!

Chrisisall, chewing on a torso right now

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Never underestimate the mad. Reavers or interior furniture hunters....

I'm with Cybersnark; this is classic.

Chrisisall, who just saw Angel fire the Fang Gang!!!(S2 is grt!)

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