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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:07 AM

Serenity was exactly what it should've been, and I'm glad that Joss didn't have to compromise- or compromised exceedingly little- in bringing Firefly to the big screen. I don't think I'd call Serenity an Oscar-worthy classic for the ages, but for a mainstream science fiction action-adventure film, it's certainly a cut above the rest. I love "arty" movies too, but sometimes you just need to kick back and see some cool people kicking ass and taking names.

That said, "hero"? That's overstating things slightly...unless Universal agreed to finance this film after Joss dragged 20 people from a burning building singlehandedly...

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:58 AM

I'd just like to add that I don't agree with Jack Green's comment about the movie "Miracle". First of all I'm not sure that movie is about the american dream and second, why is he surprised that they shot a hockey movie in canada? Up here we've come to depend on hollywood movies, huge studios were built here in montreal for that reason. So we kinda resent this keep it in hollywood attitude, lotta jobs are depending on it.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 2:14 AM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
hero? define hero.



A hero is someone who gets other people killed. You can look it up later.



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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:10 PM

trollboy? ahh ok.

how dare i be critical. shame on me. whedon is abandoning firefly. newp just ain't gonna ever make more episodes of firefly. not after serenity. no return to television from that launching platform. never mind that the whole "rabid fan" thing that resulted in the production of that movie had everything in the world to do with getting the show back on the air. hell go look at the poll on the front page of this website. 80 percent of us would rather have this back on TV versus more movies. but, he's now a movie producer. whoopitydoo. hip hip hooray.

i had hoped the movie would provoke a movement to return Firefly back to series production. hell the momentum is already there from the fanbase (myself included). but newp that just ain't gonna happen it seems. whedon has abandoned serial episodes of anything television cuz he's now "A-list". someone get that man a producer's chair with his name emblazoned on it. hell even if he had loyalty to the fans who worship him, his little foray into movies hasn't caused only his ego to explode. from what i've read, other members of the surviving firefly cast will never reprise their roles in a firefly series since the movie. they too are now "graduated" from the medium of television. hollywood never has a shortage of bigger-than-life egos. as for whedon..

wonder woman movie? hmm sounds like they are giving him prunes disguised as lemons and asking him to make lemonade. of all the DC comic characters from whom you could make a movie, none were as tacky as that one. well superman maybe. but this one will be a real doozy. the money will be there no doubt. at the end of the day i guess that's all that counts.

XG


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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:17 PM

and btw... i just want it known.. Zoe (Gina Torres) has made it known she'd redo firefly. movies, TV eps, etc. her role as loyal 2nd to mal remains intact both on the screen and off.

the real question is who are the ones who won't return?

think she needs to be sainted.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 8:31 PM

Nice article!

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Monday, October 10, 2005 9:47 PM

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Monday, October 10, 2005 9:49 PM

Meet Joss the hero. He keeps his films in Hollywood:

"Hi, I'll be filming Wonder Woman in Australia."

It scares me that someone would call Joss a hero based on this article.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xion47:
Meet Joss the hero. He keeps his films in Hollywood:

"Hi, I'll be filming Wonder Woman in Australia."

It scares me that someone would call Joss a hero based on this article.

Harken: "Seems odd that you would name your ship after a battle you were on the wrong side of."
Mal: "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Oh, for crying out loud. I only used the hero thing because I thought it would make more people read the damn article. The only time anyone uses the word "hero" is in this quote:

Quote:

But by filming his sci-fi feature film debut, "Serenity," in town, he found himself something of a local hero, one of a growing number of people who are fighting to keep Hollywood in Hollywood.


So nobody's saying he's the next Captain America, although that would be interesting to see.

And if you read the whole article, it's more about how Serenity is an example of efficent film making than anything else.

I do agree about the Miracle comment. Why should a movie about hockey be made in the U.S?

It just makes sense to make movies here, since this is where the people who make them live. It's easier on everybody. That was a good portion of the point of the article. Why do so many people always have to be negative about everything? Geeze.



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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:08 AM

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
trollboy? ahh ok.

how dare i be critical. shame on me. whedon is abandoning firefly. newp just ain't gonna ever make more episodes of firefly. not after serenity. no return to television from that launching platform. never mind that the whole "rabid fan" thing that resulted in the production of that movie had everything in the world to do with getting the show back on the air. hell go look at the poll on the front page of this website. 80 percent of us would rather have this back on TV versus more movies. but, he's now a movie producer. whoopitydoo. hip hip hooray.

i had hoped the movie would provoke a movement to return Firefly back to series production. hell the momentum is already there from the fanbase (myself included). but newp that just ain't gonna happen it seems. whedon has abandoned serial episodes of anything television cuz he's now "A-list". someone get that man a producer's chair with his name emblazoned on it. hell even if he had loyalty to the fans who worship him, his little foray into movies hasn't caused only his ego to explode. from what i've read, other members of the surviving firefly cast will never reprise their roles in a firefly series since the movie. they too are now "graduated" from the medium of television. hollywood never has a shortage of bigger-than-life egos. as for whedon..

wonder woman movie? hmm sounds like they are giving him prunes disguised as lemons and asking him to make lemonade. of all the DC comic characters from whom you could make a movie, none were as tacky as that one. well superman maybe. but this one will be a real doozy. the money will be there no doubt. at the end of the day i guess that's all that counts.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.



Uh, do you not remember that if Joss breaks contract with FOX he ows an assload of money? Do YOU want to pay that?
I'm not saying that your point is completely invalid--hey, after making money with the movie I'd figure that the first thing I'd do is break contract with a television station with a history of treating my work like crap.
But seriously--DO you want to pay that fee? We're not talking Kevin Smith who has multiple money-making movies to his name. We're talking a writer/director who has two successful TV shows (and one unsuccessful, more's the shame) under his belt and a few writing credits to him on movies that ended up sucking pretty hard. Find an investor who's willing to pay FOX their blood money for the contract AND rights to the show, instead of complaining, and maybe we'll get a continuation of Firefly.

Oh, and as far as Wonderwoman is concerned; no matter how tacky a character, she is well loved, and practically gueranteed to make money as an iconic character on the big screen. Other than the The Six Million Dollar Man (and maybe Swamp Thing), what other character from the small screen hasn't already had a recent rebirth on the big one? Take it up with William Moulton Marston as to why he wanted to create a psychologically based feminist character. And She has been in continuous print since her creation. DC knows where their moneymakers are, and Superman, tacky as he is, has made them a LOT of money. I think it's not generally considered BAD to get to write/direct for a character who's so well known.

You make a few good points, but they're hard to find in so much cynicism.



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