DAILY TELEGRAPH : SUMMER
POSTED BY: Howard
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 18:26
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I seen something on BBC where Gorillas were acting like Baboons and chasing little monkey things down and then eating them..... although your point stands in general theyre vegeterians. However, we're supposed to eat meat, anything your not supposed to eat will make you sick, thats the way its worked out.
Plants do "feel" , try watchign some of those timelapse films of plants, getting attacked by weeds etc, they go superslow but when its sped up you can see them reacting, running away, fighting back etc.
PLUS some plants eat meat...
I do however refuse to eat anything that plays fetch :p
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Originally posted by Howard:
As a Vegetarian I found this to be more evidence of how character development both on and off screen is sold out and destroyed by the commercial movie system. As for your joy in it well that is the satisfaction of a shallow mind for sure not to mention taking joy in seeing the movie system ruin both a sensitive character on-screen and a sensitive human being off-screen!!
Well said.
I honestly truly hate what has been done to River in Serenity. I hate Hollywood and what it does to people.
The “cool” thing about the Character of River WAS the character of River. The fact she can beat up Reavers is just so much motion.
Im sick. I really am.
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I honestly truly hate what has been done to River in Serenity. I hate Hollywood and what it does to people.
The “cool” thing about the Character of River WAS the character of River. The fact she can beat up Reavers is just so much motion.
Im sick. I really am.
????
but is River a meat eater? I thought she just eats the synthetic protein food stuff like everyone else?
I don't see what Summer eats as having any effect on what River does or says...
Although perhaps you mean that you assume that JOSS WHEDON is eating meat and getting corrupted?
I'm sorry...you guys (Haze and Howard) are really getting wacko here....
I don't want to be offensive and judgemental,
but I think your attitude toward Summer Glau is offensive and insulting.
JMPO of course
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Originally posted by Haze:
I honestly truly hate what has been done to River in Serenity. I hate Hollywood and what it does to people.
The “cool” thing about the Character of River WAS the character of River. The fact she can beat up Reavers is just so much motion.
Im sick. I really am.
????
but is River a meat eater? I thought she just eats the synthetic protein food stuff like everyone else?
I don't see what Summer eats as having any effect on what River does or says...
Although perhaps you mean that you assume that JOSS WHEDON is eating meat and getting corrupted?
I'm sorry...you guys (Haze and Howard) are really getting wacko here....
I don't want to be offensive and judgemental,
but I think your attitude toward Summer Glau is offensive and insulting.
JMPO of course
Me distaste for Rivers more action-orientated role is Serenity has noting to do with her Summer or Joss’s eating habits. And I stand by it.
As for Summers’ decision to abandon her vegetarianism its not fact shes eating meat that bothers me. I don’t consider eating meat wrong. It’s the fact she abandoned a belief she held for so long that worries me.
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Actually I’ll put it to you this way, regardless of whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing a gentleness has died. That’s something to be mourned.
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Where do people get the idea that being a vegetarian has something to do with belief? I'm a vegetarian, but the only reason why I'm a vegetarian is because I have some problems with my digestion, nothing to do with belief.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Actually I’ll put it to you this way, regardless of whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing a gentleness has died. That’s something to be mourned.
gentleness!?!?! she shot 3 guys in War Stories and slashed Jayne in Ariel. That's not gentle. She was played out as a mentally tortured individual from the beginning and a tool of the Alliance. That she turned out to be a martial arts assasin is hardly a modifier from the series. She found a strength in the movie she lacked in the series, but she was hardly a meek and gentle being.
And arguing about the goodness or badness of vegetarianism vs. omnivorianism is a no win situation.
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Your concept of a Vegetarian/Vegan diet is pure reactionary ignorance. I do not eat leaves (outside of a side salad) and such I have full enriching meals everynight.
Your problem as with most is ignorance on three levels: cuisine and culture and biology.
Human beings are Apes. Which is the most powerful of all Apes? Sharing 98% of our DNA the Silver-back Gorilla. Show me a human carni who is willing to pick a fight with a Gorilla. Gorillas are 100% Vegetarian.
As for Summer Glau her best work was done when she was a Vegetarian.
1. As a Ballerina
2. As an actress and ballerina on ANGEL
3. On FIREFLY
The depth and substance of her work in the above mentioned examples exceeds in artistic and intellectual quality and accomplishment anything allowed by the constraints of a soul-sell-out theatrical blockbuster.
Actually, our closest genetic relatives are the chimpanzees, and they occasionally eat meat.
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It’s a question of context. When River slashed Jayne and shot those three guys there was noting cool about it. Its was creepy it, it was wrong. The violent aspect of River’s character was something forced on her, something that was done to her. It’s fundamentally wrong and played as such. I completely reject the notion that the fact she can beat people up makes River strong. River was always strong. It was an internal strength. The greatest example being “Objects in Space” in that Episode River showed her true strength, a strength that in no way stemmed from her fists. “No touching guns” Rivers true strength.
In Serenity all that’s out the window in favor of really cool looking fight scenes.
Again I stand by my points. And it makes me very sad.
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