DAILY TELEGRAPH : SUMMER
POSTED BY: Howard
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 18:26
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It isn't about selling out. It's about personal choice. Maybe you're reading something into the story that isn't there. I certainly didn't see any quote from Summer attributing her changing her diet because of any orders from the studio. If you have a quote that contradicts that, please post it here.
Or maybe you're just peeved because someone you admire has a mind of her own and changed it to something that flies in the face of your own philosophy.
And if the "corporate entertainment regime" truly "devours and destroys all that is good in our culture," we never would have gotten our BDM in the first place.
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Howard. Chill, for goodness' sake. What gives you the right to go calling anyone a sell-out?
I would always have pegged Summer for being vegetarian, but finding that she's normal just makes her even more attractive. (Not that that's strictly possible, or makes any difference at all, of course.)
At first I thought you were being all ironical, but I was wrong. Lack of a balanced diet has removed your tolerance.
If you were invited round for tea (don't worry - there's less than no chance) we'd ask if you were a veggie, and either cook something weird specially for you, or everyone would go bovine, out of politeness.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that just never happens in reverse does it?
Go to dinner at a veggie's place and you'll always get a handful of grass and nuts and something that might or might not be tofu whether you like it or not.
And don't get me started on the aesthetics of wearing sandals with beige wooly socks...
Only Popeye has ever opened cans of spinach and whoop-ass in that order. And he's fictional. And a cartoon.
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It is interesting how you bias minded
reactionaries have failed entirely to
address the primary issue of the drop in
dramatic substance from FIREFLY to SERENITY.
It is also interesting how you are attacking
me as if I fired the first salvo which I did
not. I was merely responding to the initial
ridicule against vegetarians that first reponder
to the article made.
He did not treat it as merely a personal choice
but as a joyous victory for meat-eaters!!
Go back to the top of the page and follow the
narrative.
I was merely defending my honour!!
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oh dear, I think the dietary debate is kind of crazy, how often do interviewers every get it right?
she was probably joking.
But that is beside the point IMO,
she is beautiful and talented and I love seeing Summer get the recognition she deserves!
I got to meet her at the second Advanced Screening in Chicago, and she is a beautiful & sweet girl.
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I have no doubt she is a lovely person
the issues here are broader.
As I already said.
Second thoughts:
That is precisely what I am worried about
people are CHANGED by what they do in showBiz
and the consequences and what they put out to
the public does alter them. I have known rock
stars in my life and seen how changing the art
changes them and how their soul is lost.
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I agree about her likely joking
but I was not responding to that
as much as I was the belief and
joy in it apparently shown by others.
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So gorillas are the problem? Some kind of terrifying space-gorillas got loose?
Moody buggers. They're just waiting for you to spill their pint or look at their bird.
Empire State Building, anyone?
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It is interesting how you bias minded
reactionaries
Yes, it's always the others who are bias minded reactionaries and never one's self. The bottom line is that if you subscribe to the idea of free will, it was not Hollywood that "changed" Summer, it was her own Big Damn Choice. The fact that she may enjoy the occasional nice, juicy steak in no way makes her less of a person, regardless of what YOU believe.
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It is also interesting how you are attacking
me as if I fired the first salvo which I did
not. I was merely responding to the initial
ridicule against vegetarians that first reponder
to the article made.
The first "salvo" was idiotic and should have been ignored. And it also shouldn't have been followed by an intolerant tirade about eating meat "ruining" Summer.
"And that's all I have to say about that." - Forrest Gump
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Vegetarians scare me.
“The cow looks like me in certain ways, for example it has eyes I can look into and see a soul. The potato does not. The cow thinks like me in a certain way, it’s body is controlled by a brain as mine is and many of it’s responses I can understand. The potato does not think like me, though like all plants the potato plant is able to control it’s body in a way I can only conceive of a brain doing it does not have one. While it responds to harm in a chemical way analogous only to what I call pain, and responds to the threat of it in a way that can only be called fear I do not care.
“It is better to eat the live fetus of a potato plant than the dead rump of a cow.
“Anything that does not look or think like me may be slaughtered, but if it can even be vaguely said to look or think like me it is more worthy of life.”
I don’t like that, it scares me, it reeks of playing god. We go through life leaving a path of pain and destruction in our wakes. Once we thought being a vegetarian was healthy, once we thought it avoided pain. Now we know that it leads to poor bone growth among other things, and that plants can feel pain. (I suppose you could say my definition of pain is too loose, but I can not for the life of me think of another word to describe what they feel.)
No matter what you do you cause suffering and eat either what you like or what is healthy provided it violates neither your religion nor cultural norms. (Don’t eat a dog if you know people who have them for pets, certainly don’t eat the guy next door.)
I once met a vegetarian I could understand, she didn’t like the taste of meat. She was willing to cope with the adverse side effects in order to enjoy her meals, she never once looked at being a meat eater as a bad thing. Nothing wrong with that.
I once heard of a Buddhist monk (I’ve forgotten his name) who began each meal by saying his version of grace, which made sure to point out that the meal, vegetarian of course, was a result of suffering and death.
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