are fans boycotting the movie? (major spoilers)

POSTED BY: XanderHarris
UPDATED: Thursday, October 20, 2005 16:27
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SAFEAT2ND

Saturday, October 8, 2005 1:49 AM

Seems to me after reading all these posts, that true fans are in fact NOT boycotting the movie, nor abandoning the franchise, just voicing their opinion clearly and concisely. Yes, I've seen the posts at the O-boards, but I figure of those posting, most are Browncoats to whom the wound is still raw and they are still reacting to it. I got stomped on there myself.

These are the ones that would benefit from reading this and Firefly gal’s and Chrisall's threads. The people posting here, for the most part, are accepting and reassuring to those in need. Trying to encourage them to keep the faith, not brow beating them into liking the movie like some extremists are.

For those "disillusioned", for lack of a better word, take strength in this; Serenity does not/ cannot change what Firefly was, only what it can or will be. It is but the first chapter, let’s see what the second chapter brings.

Safeat2nd, Chief Handyman of Destiny

JAIF

Saturday, October 8, 2005 4:17 AM

"Now with the loss of Book we lose a serious point of contention with his story...where did he come from? What was he before he became a Shepard?"

We don't lose it. For all we know, the sequel starts with Book's old comrade-in-arms or illegitimate son approaching Zoe with a job, and suddenly we're back in action.

On a tangent - I've read a few posts now talking about "extreme" positions or stating that we're bickering. I'd like to note that it's possible for people to take strong positions on a subject, debate it with strong language, and still not cause a social breach. I don't hate a person who disagrees with me, nor am I going to get angry just because they belittle my position. The only thing that really matters is that we don't make personal attacks, and in reverse, we take statements a bit more easily realizing that we can't see the body language and hear the tone behind them. Not everyone is a great communicator, either (I sure ain't), so we can work to understand what a person is trying to say even if it's not clear.

I've rambled, but basically I don't think this thread has been overly harsh.

-Jeff

MACBAKER

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by Thanatus:
So...let me see if I got this straight. Because we don't like the gratuitous deaths of major characters (BTW Wash was not my favorite character), and have some issues with this endeavor, we are dithering simpletons and we should find simpler faire for our feeble minds where major characters don't die, right? Like maybe...FIREFLY?!?

This is the problem! Firefly, the dvd set, is safe because it's a closed book! Yes, in the first 14 episodes, no major character died, but you are mistaken if you believe for a minute that major characters wouldn't have died if the series hadn't been canceled. I guess for you, it's a good thing FOX canceled the series, cuz, like the movie, I doubt you would have liked where the series would have gone!

Lets get a little perspective here! Over the course of those 14 episodes, every character been shot or stabbed at least once. The grand exception being Inara (who btw is the only character to also come though the movie without a major injury). With the lives these people led, death was inevitiable! Sooner or later their luck was going to run out, and someone was going to fall.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

JASONZZZ

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:29 AM

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Originally posted by Thanatus:
Hey all...little tangential here, but I'm new to these boards (PS-Post Serenity). Curious, though...did this level of acrimony, in-fighting, and outright contempt for one another and their opinions exist here prior to Serenity? If not, does that tell anyone else something about Joss' success/lack thereof here? Dunno, maybe it's just me...but to see this (assumed) shift in an otherwise solid fanbase seems it should raise some eyebrows somewhere.

SOUPCATCHER

Saturday, October 8, 2005 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Here's some additional reading material to consider from threads previously posted...

Well, I think the Real World Events Discussion section of fireflyfans (where all but one of these links are from) is a bit of a special circumstance. We have been known to get a mite stroppy over there.

As far as threads that are specifically related to Firefly, I do remember things getting tense on occasion. But that wasn't the behavior of the majority. This one topic does tend to cut to the bone more than most. Hopefully we can maintain civility while disagreeing.

BUBBLEOFEARTH

Sunday, October 9, 2005 5:03 AM

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Originally posted by Crumpy:
Only if they have no imagination. In the movie it has been six months since Jubel Early! So why did Book go to Haven? What happened when Inara left Serenity, did Mal choke? How many battery operated devices has Kaylee worn out? Have Wash and Zoe given up on the idea of kids?
All these and other questions can be answered in Serenity -1 (the prequel?).

I haven't read all the way to the bottom yet, and I apologize if I'm repeating anyone, but except for the batteries and Mal Choking, oh so many of these questions and more were answered in the comics that mostly filled in the blank months between Early and The Operative.

JADEHAND

Sunday, October 9, 2005 5:22 AM

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Originally posted by Washburn:
Now with the loss of Book we lose a serious point of contention with his story...where did he come from? What was he before he became a Shepard? You know he was some part of the Alliance at one point thanks to the episode Safe during the series.

Now I've seen speculation and agree myself that the answer to Book's past is clearly told in the film.

Select to view spoiler:

He was an Operative. And like this one saw something that shattered his faith in the Alliance. So he found faith elsewhere. Maybe he had a hand in Miranada, or Serenity Valley. I wouldn't be shocked to see this Operative in an abby soon.

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CHRISTHECYNIC

Sunday, October 9, 2005 1:13 PM

It comes to this:

People watched the movie once and then swore to never see it again. They did this for no readily apparent reason.

That’s all that there is to it. If they liked Wash why don’t they want to see him alive again? If they like Firefly why do they refuse to give it a chance? We know that people who did exactly the same thing but then were compelled to see it again, dragged in by friends, liked it the second time around. They were able to see things more clearly and they enjoyed the film.

So why would you refuse to give the film a second chance? I can’t come up with a reason. I’ve seen things that I absolutely hated and had no reason to like that I could see, and when enough people who shared my interests told me to give them a second chance I did.

There is no way I would refuse to give a second chance to something with characters I loved.

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It honestly seems to me like if you won’t see the movie a second time you can’t like Wash much. You refuse to show the character any respect at all. But I don’t do psychology, I’m a math major.

RIVERBIRCH

Sunday, October 9, 2005 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by XanderHarris:
because of wash's death? i mean seriously? it was upseting....but still....

I saved Latin, what did you ever do?

I was devestated too but I think a TRUE fan would not boycott, nor leave the browncoats because of this. I think true colors show with the reaction to the movie.

* I swallowed a bug *

REVAER

Sunday, October 9, 2005 1:38 PM

With respect to the emotions people have towards their favorite,
(possibly redundant, but since I was recently stung...

SPOILER!!!!)

All these characters are birthed from the mind of Mr. Whedon. Kill your support, and your truly kill these characters and their interactive counterparts that helped them become who they were. If you can fall so deeply for one whose lifetime has actually spanned one TV season plus a movie, imagine what Joss could come up with if he had more support. I did not want King Arthur to bite it. His greatness is all the more magnified by his exit. Better than Wash dying from an intestinal blockage (not reaver induced). Honor the characters and strive for more from Joss, or they really are dead.

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