Does this Make Sense!?!?
POSTED BY: XanderHarris
UPDATED: Sunday, October 9, 2005 13:25
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nope! it sends 'em running!! bro and me going tonight and my entire family tomorrow (they say they're going to see wallace and gromit- but i'm sure as anything not! )
guys i love you all! i heart wallace and gromit sooo much- i want you to know the kind of dedication that this takes! but then who couldn't resist some more nathan and adam and sean and well you get the point!
ps- at fandango it says nothing about firefly in the review. good. also has us as #2 at the moment.
shakespeare: more words than God.
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
You are saying that the difference is:
1) knowing just one piece of information (your mom only knowing the actor for example) is merely being influenced by it.
2) and implying that perhaps finding out more or "knowing" more can help her make the decision.
No, that is not at all what I'm saying. In terms of terminology that is the exact opposite of what I am saying, when it comes to actual meaning it’s a bit harder to tell exactly how far off you are.
But I have given up, I’ve said everything as simply as I can and that’s obviously not good enough. I am sorry I totally failed to communicate what I meant, but I’m not going to try again.
Since that is the heart of the matter responding to the rest of what you said is basically pointless
However, I would like to point out the following anyway:
Quote:I said that, you can go and check if you like.
Even having slightly more information to which you assume you possessed does not a better or more worthy decision it make.
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good news: theatre packed at my showing despite huge crowds for wallace and gromit. and i sat in front of the people who i sat behind last week! we're becoming fast friends!
bad news: there are bigger problems than wash dying. like, oh say, real people with cancer who are this '-' close to dying.
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Originally posted by reallykaylee:
bad news: there are bigger problems than wash dying. like, oh say, real people with cancer who are this '-' close to dying.
I doubt anyone here hasn't lost at least one loved on in a traumatic way, but just because it hurts more to lose a real flesh and blood person doesn't mean it does not hurt to lose someone who was made real in your imagination.
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1. I don't think it's fair to fault the marketing team--I think they did pretty well with the budget they had, and they tried some new and daring strategies.
2. One of the most important things I'm taking away from this is that we on the Internet tend to overestimate our importance. I love the communicative possibilities of the net, but there's a big world out there, where most people live.
3. Serenity is an excellent film, with terrific reviews--regardless of box office data. I want it to do well too, but if it doesn't--well, it's still an excellent film that Joss should be proud of. And don't forget the Rocky Horror factor ($112 million to date) -- who knows how long Serenity will be selling....
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~ Scootch over, Wash! ~
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I agree with you Fireflyfan278.
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The decision to kill Wash ended the series for me as well. I did not like it, I did not agree with it, and I will not be seeing the movie again because of it
Hope is the best and last of all things. Without it there is only time......and death is the only escape of time.
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Originally posted by christhecynic:Quote:
Originally posted by reallykaylee:
bad news: there are bigger problems than wash dying. like, oh say, real people with cancer who are this '-' close to dying.
I doubt anyone here hasn't lost at least one loved on in a traumatic way, but just because it hurts more to lose a real flesh and blood person doesn't mean it does not hurt to lose someone who was made real in your imagination.
chris- i won't even begin to tell you about my late afternoon before i went to the show . . .
it makes it embarassing to think of how i first mourned wash.
shakespeare: more words than God.
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Quote:I agree, with Fox you can really get justifiably pissed off at the advertising, not so much with Universal. The strategy looked good, and with this kind of a movie it’s hard to sell with a trailer, word of mouth is the best bet.
Originally posted by mali:
1. I don't think it's fair to fault the marketing team--I think they did pretty well with the budget they had, and they tried some new and daring strategies.
I’m pissed off that the experiment failed, and I wish they’d just gone with traditional and just taken the risk because now that we see what the daring strategy achieved that seems preferable.
That doesn’t make me pissed at the marketing team, they did what they thought would work and they actually had good reason to think it would work. It seemed like we were spreading like a plague.
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2. One of the most important things I'm taking away from this is that we on the Internet tend to overestimate our importance. I love the communicative possibilities of the net, but there's a big world out there, where most people live.Quote:
That really is true, and it’s bad thing. We got a lot of active people on the net, we tend to think there is a larger silent crowd out there that may or may not exist, and we forget that not everyone reads the reviews of Serenity.
Sure people say great things that might make a lot of people go if they read them, but just because we read those reviews doesn’t mean others will.Quote:I really think we should think about the present for the moment and not a hopeful future. Keep on trying to get people to go, the worst that can happen is that they don’t, and that would happen anyway.
3. Serenity is an excellent film, with terrific reviews--regardless of box office data. I want it to do well too, but if it doesn't--well, it's still an excellent film that Joss should be proud of. And don't forget the Rocky Horror factor ($112 million to date) -- who knows how long Serenity will be selling....NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by Haken:
Here are a couple of factors that no one has brought up.
- Serenity didn't have a big name star. Flightplan had Jodie Foster. That name alone will bring in the numbers regardless of whether the movie was good or not. And from what I've read and heard, Flightplan isn't all that great of a movie. People just want to see Jodie Foster in a movie.
- Serenity didn't have a big name director. Sure, Joss Whedon is real big in fandom, but other than that, few have heard of him.
Hate to say this, but the "average" moviegoer usually decide on what to watch based on who made it and who is in it. That's why good movies that didn't do well at the theaters usually do very well on DVD.
Excellent points Haken. Both are very true & are probably lending to the less than stellar showings at the box office.
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Originally posted by fireflyfan278:
First,Select to view spoiler:
I saw no point to the death of Wash.
Second, if I missed the point, then I will have just missed it. I have a standard policy:Select to view spoiler:
I hate movies that kill off the good guys and I never go see a movie again that I hated the first time. I see so many people on this site writing that they cried. I didn't. It pissed me off. I don't cry when I get angry. Enough tragedy happens in real life that I don't want it in my movies(and maybe I've had too much in mine to want more in my movies).
I've seen it once. I have no plans to see it again. I have no plans to buy or watch the DVD. I'm on my fourth viewing of the Firefly DVD's that I got about a month ago so I'm a big fan. But for me the Firefly series is the extent of the verse in which Serenity flies.
it seems you are new to Joss Whedon
he doesn't cater to simple fans and fans that can't deal w/ when his material reflects reality
if you want that crap, go watch your average Hollywood action movie.I find it amusing that you'll continue to watch Firefly on dvd,meanwhile being the exact opposite of what a Whedon fan should be like.To continue to watch Firefly, as if what happened in Serenity never happened is asinine, and you're placing yourself in a state of denial.
Keeping things "safe" and blocking characters from realistic danger is the exact opposite of what Joss is, and has always been about, so to whine about what happened in Serenity is also asinine....since you should've prepared yourself for that reality!
and to reply to your first spoiler, here's the answer...
it was an accident lol so how was there no point? That's like saying there was no point to any accident that's ever happened on film.
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