Firefly Season 2 On DVD

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UPDATED: Monday, October 10, 2005 15:24
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JASONZZZ

Saturday, October 8, 2005 3:41 AM

Sorry, but I just have to give an exasperated "Good grief" to translating An Independent - as in a soldier who fights for Independece and against domination as this --> "獨立派人士" ... That directly translates as someone (ostensibly, a personage, which doesn't say anything about fighting, battles, or war) who makes up and stands by their own rules... But no one in their right mind would even use those words to say that. And I realize that that's what happens when you piece together words from a dictionary. Yes, those words do mean that, but people don't use those words like that.

I think the closest thing that carries that meaning is a guerilla fighter/warrior.

游擊戰士

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Originally posted by Ananti:
No, just that it's a very bad translation of "Independents", which I guess is what you're going for.

It means "Non-Partisan" and "Neutral", which is not the same thing as "Independent". It would be the difference between some one like Jayne who sat out the war versus someone like Mal who took the side of the Independents.

Independent is better translated as "獨立",

so "獨立派人士" is the contextually correct translation.

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RAKARR

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:29 AM

A 2nd season that comes out for only DVD and isn't on TV? No. That would be... dumb imo. Just do another movie instead. I'd like anothe season though.

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HOWARD

Saturday, October 8, 2005 4:11 PM

Could you please try and apply a bit more common sense.

The world is not monolithic. DVD is now equal to either theatrical or TV in its own right. A DVD season would in some territories be both on DVD first then TV second in other parts of the world it would be DVD only. DVD is in an age of multi-channel TV that has segmented the market bigger in its own right than any channel or network. There are for example loads of people around the world who have HBO shows on DVD but have never had HBO or even a local channel that shows their content as Channel 4 does here in the UK. But still despite HBO shows being on free TV in the UK the DVD both local and imported sell even better than the on-air ratings. People just use the TV airings to see if they like a show then buy the DVD.

There is no reason why a straight to DVD release cannot have an advertising campaign to inform people and a website that shows enticing samples like the 9 minutes of the movie running at the moment.

JASONZZZ

Saturday, October 8, 2005 4:37 PM

Aren't only shows the BBC co-produced together with HBO are broadcasted over on free tv in UK?

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CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, October 8, 2005 4:50 PM

I have not read most of the posts in this thread, bad me, but here is what I have to say and I hope people will listen. (Even though it is longwinded.)

The reported cost for one episode of Firefly was 2,000,000 USD, the number of fans estimated as of ther first trailer of Serenity was more than 2,000,000 which means to make an episode of Firefly it would cost about one dollar a fan.

The problem with that is simple, as has been stated people do not work one episode at a time, and the 2 million cost was for episodes after the creation of the set and such.

On the other hand once you get the ball rolling it should be self sustaining.

To make a direct to DVD season it would have to start out with enough money to set up and shoot several episodes, then sell those and use the money made to film the next and so forth.

Sahara is currently going out on DVD for $20 around here, for $20 per fan you could get ten times as many hours from a Firefly DVD set. To build in a safeguard charge twenty dollars for ten episodes instead of Twenty, I’d pay that.

Still, the problem remains: how do you get it started?

What I think we should do is set up an account and accept donations to save the show for a period of five years (I think that’s a good amount of time.) If at the end of that enough money has been collected to build the sets and film a few episodes we make an offer to the cast and crew do so, no promises, just film as many as can be afforded. At the end of that the episodes are released to DVD and sold, even if you donated you’d still have to buy the DVD. Money from the sales would be used to film more episodes if there was enough.

What if there is not enough money or the crew doesn’t accept the offer? Well people get back what they put in plus any interest it accumulated.

Why five years? It would take a long time and by setting a time period it makes people less likely to assume it is dead, also you need to know when you get your money back if it doesn't work. Of course if enough money were collected before then we could do it then.

What if Joss says it won’t work and to give up?
Ignore him.
Huh?
Well the thing is that no one will take it seriously unless it works, and it will never work unless people take it seriously. It requires irrationality to have a hope of success.

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The only things that I think need to be done for this is to set up an accounting system so we can know who put in what, so that they can get it back if it all fails, and to find a way to guarantee that the money can only be used to restart the show, so people know it isn’t a scam.

I really want to do this, not just for Firefly but to see if it can be done. Can you get enough money from the fans alone to cut out the middleman in TV shows? (The middleman already screwed us over so who cares if he doesn’t take kindly?)

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I plan to set it up, though what I plan doesn’t ever seem to relate to reality remotely. I think that merely finding out if it is possible is worth temporarily sinking money into, and the only way it wouldn’t be temporary is if it worked, which is definitely worth it.

AN81ANGEL

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:24 PM

christhecynic

here is what i think we could do first. someone needs to go to a lawyer. that way there is a real back up so people wont think it is a scam. i was also thinking, it cant be just any bank account, what about a swis bank account, they r as secure as it gets. as for keep a log of information on who donated etc, that could be done with a secure website.

what do u think?

CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:50 PM

Yeah, definitely need a lawyer, also someone who knows finance so we know a good place to put the money.

I think it might actually be a good idea to create to separate collections, one that is in a bank, perhaps more than one bank, and another collection that goes to be invested. Investing money has a chance of making more money, but it risks losing it. Let people chose which one their money goes into.

I think there are web sites that can securely accept donations and keep track of who made them, as for Swiss banks, I have no idea about banks, that’s why someone who understands finance would be good.

NIKNAK

Saturday, October 8, 2005 6:51 PM

Aren't fans of Enterprise trying to do the same thing? I personnally don't think it would work. Many people may buy a finished product but no where near enough would put up money before it's even made. The only it would work would be a rich millionaire paying for it. Anyone here work for Microsoft and want to lend their DVDs to the directors?

DATALESS

Saturday, October 8, 2005 7:41 PM

I there really are 2 million fans (where are they for the film, the box office doesn't show it) just have each of them give $25US per season each (a dollar for 25 episodes and lets say 4 seasons so $100US. I doubt it would be worth making any less for the cast and it still might even hurt their careers in the long run) So all the actors and production staff could be paid to make the episodes. Now when they release the DVD you each need to buy them at the minimal price of $59.99US (if you are we lucky. This is the cost of the best selling shows like Lost, Alias, and Desperate Housewives. Sopranos cost $99.95US and I get sick just think about the Star Trek boxed set.) The Distribution company needs to make money. So now we are looking at $239.90US (doesn't include Tax) for all four sets and each of people that put in that amount would have to buy the sets or it’s a waste to produce the DVDs any way. So the Grand total would be $339.90 without even knowing if the actors want to do it before a single episode has been even produced and that is about the lowest price possible. It would most likely be much more. I think every one is going to say, "Yeah, let’s do that right now" but when it's time to collect the money most will be absent that day. Oh I almost forgot the amazingly large cost for the production rights from our dear friends at Fox (whom we've insulted nearly hourly on this site) and Universal. The cost of that might be a lot more that ten million from each studio (and if Joss is against it, not to mention the actors, the right might never sell and without them it's a huge waste of money). So here's my logic if you are willing to spend that much money do it now in the theater. It truly is you best last hope for any more Firefly/Serenity.

Carpe Diem!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOWARD

Saturday, October 8, 2005 7:53 PM

Most HBO and other top US TV shows are on shown on CHANNEL 4 which has nothing to do with the BBC.

Channel 4 has:

Nip/Tuck
Lost
Without a Trace
Desperate Housewives
Friends
Fraser
Scrubs
ER
SOPRANOS
SIX FEET UNDER
SEX & THE CITY
They had ANGEL for a short time then CHANNEL 5 got it.

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