more asians in serenity

POSTED BY: jebusyoon
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 06:32
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JEBUSYOON

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 1:15 AM

i don't know if anyone's mentioned this but... for a world that's melted the asian and western culture so well, why aren't there more asians? i mean, i love the show, and everything, but it would be cool if they had asian people speaking an asian language, or do the smuggling happen in caucasian worlds? sorry, just a little angry, being an asian-american, if you couldn't tell by my poor grammar... :P anywho, any asian would be fine, know or not so known... (me)cough... hahaha. like, for instance, jakie chan, jet li, johnny young bosh, william hung... wait... maybe not all, but some asian dude/dudette. well, thanks for reading my post! but seriously, joss is a genious.

KIZYR

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by jebusyoon:
i don't know if anyone's mentioned this but... for a world that's melted the asian and western culture so well, why aren't there more asians? i mean, i love the show, and everything, but it would be cool if they had asian people speaking an asian language, or do the smuggling happen in caucasian worlds? sorry, just a little angry, being an asian-american, if you couldn't tell by my poor grammar... :P anywho, any asian would be fine, know or not so known... (me)cough... hahaha. like, for instance, jakie chan, jet li, johnny young bosh, william hung... wait... maybe not all, but some asian dude/dudette. well, thanks for reading my post! but seriously, joss is a genious.

I've definitely noticed. There's the occasional Chinese fellow (assuming by language). But, I figured in an environment like that in Firefly, areas might be separated based on language. Since the crew mostly bums around in English-speaking enclaves, then perhaps more of their contacts are of European and North American descent from Earth-that-was.

Then, there's also the fact of there being fewer Asian-American actors out there. Too bad, too. KF

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STAKETHELURK

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 6:00 AM

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Then, there's also the fact of there being fewer Asian-American actors out there. Too bad, too.

I wasn't aware of that. Interesting (though unfortunate). Joss has said they auditioned asian actors for basically every role on the series (both cast and guest star), but felt that the other actors just out-performed them (why couldn't they get Daniel Dae Kim from "Angel" for a guest stint?). So, a smaller talent pool means fewer numbers of high quality actors and thus basically no roles.

It should be pointed out that Ott from the comic books (where casting played somewhat less of a role) was Asian and had a fair amount of... um... page time. He also had no Chinese lines, whatever that means in the grand picture.

JASONZZZ

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 6:04 AM

Well, if you just look at how many Mesopotamians are running around today... Maybe that's where all of the Asians have gone in the ff universe - the way of the Mesopotamians...

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JEBUSYOON

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 7:10 AM

yeah, im thinking that there aren't many key asian actors in many films, and the ones that are decent at that practice only speak a friegn lanugage which really sucks. you would imagine that the world, no matter how seperated by language we are, gets intergrated, especially if we have to leave our world and colonize a new solar system. i just wish joss would make more of an effort to look for quality asian actors such as daniel dae kim, who is probably busy with lost which is another show i am currently obsessed over. i mean, it will take lots of man power, but it's the subtle things like that i appreciate about joss' work. ooo, or have david carradine do an apperence or something... oh well. dreams are ment to be dreamt.

but definately no william hung, i just can't stand that guy. i mean, he set back asians 17 generations. i feel my ancestors turning in their graves.

RAKARR

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 7:52 AM

Well the crew of Serenity doesn't speak other languages that we know of except for some Chinese slang. It wouldn't be very logical for them to do business with people they can't comunicate with well.

There was asians in the movie though. Not playing big parts but they in there if I remember right.

Maybe if they do a 2nd Season they will get a new piolet that's asian?

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KIZYR

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:38 AM

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Originally posted by StakeTheLurk:
I wasn't aware of that. Interesting (though unfortunate). Joss has said they auditioned asian actors for basically every role on the series (both cast and guest star), but felt that the other actors just out-performed them

Yeah, that's why I don't think this was an intentional oversight. Joss tried to work around it, but not to the extent of passing up on good actors that portrayed the sort of characters he wanted to see.

I mean, it's hard to deny that Firefly had an excellent cast. It's like each actor was just meant for their role. Even Jayne's. Though, it does make it creepy to see Summer Glau talking normally (and didn't she do another 'crazy' role in The 4400?). KF

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JEBUSYOON

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 4:48 PM

think of what you're saying man... asians not speaking... english? i think that's a very bad stereotype you just made. anywho, seeing how they're under one government, you'd think they'd make some type of universal language... no pun intended.

there were couple of stabs at trying to place more asians in the series/movie, such as the pilot, where they were selling cooked dog meat, and the movie, where there was an exotic asian fan dancer in the bar. but im asking for a little more consideration, such as...

the lady in the transport, couldn't she be asian? i mean, there's tons of supporting cast that he could have tried and really have "gone out of his way" to find an asian. if you really have a passion for a craft, or an idea, going out of your way wouldn't be that big of a deal... well, i guess it is for me :D.

but yes, the cast is perfect. im not saying change everything, but the next time he places an idea on the paper, could he try and have an asian in mind? (and i know how devoted he is by how much time he spends on the slang)

KINGPAUSE

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 5:26 PM

I know this won't hold up because there are plenty of other races visible in the 'verse, occasional "background" Asians included, but my personal theory always was that, in this story, races have become so mixed after 500 years (especially considering the fact that a lot of these people were conceived on colonies with limited populations) that basically everyone is 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, or 1/16 something.

"Tam" is, after all, a very Chinese surname.

BELASERA

Wednesday, October 5, 2005 5:57 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that Simon and River were at least half asian, though in the ep with their parents, those actors didn't look asian at all.
I agree with the original poster, though, I too would enjoy a better casting blend.

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