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Conceal-Carry Passes Handgun Bill in Minnesota

POSTED BY: Channain
UPDATED: Friday, January 23, 2004 19:20
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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:22 PM

According to the old book of world records I have laying around here, the hardest tongue twister in the world is "The sixth sheik's sixth sheep's sick."

Chug a bottle of Juarez's finest Chamucos and then practice that one in a loud tone at the local Starbucks. Convert words into their obvious profane near-equivalents as you continually screw it up. When your inevitable ejection from the premises comes, announce that you will be returning with your Royal Guard to teach these miserable peasants a lesson.

Stand in front of a convenience store on New Year's eve, with no shirt and snow coming down, a sword in each hand hanging idly over each shoulder and announcing to frightened passerby "Fear not, good citizens, I am here to protect you from DRAGONS."

Did I mention being barefoot as well?

Your move.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:59 PM

When folks call me an asshole, I usually thank them.

Thanks, Succatash.

I am proudly a member of that club. In fact, I've considered becoming a card-carrying member of Unrepentantly Rectal Associated Assholes. As a member of U. R. A. Asshole, I would share that august privilege with an incredible number of famed historical figures.

Honestly, where would we be without those opinionated, stubborn, argumentative curmudgeons? Always insisting on being right, forcing everyone else to exercize their gray matter to prove otherwise? Often in vain?

Crazy? You decide.

Wrap a large segment of rattan in a layer of duct tape (3 to 5 feet is sufficient). Don medieval style clothing, add protective armor segments to joints and head. Stand in the middle of a field with others similarly outfitted. When the Marshal cries, "Lay on," bash your friends with your stick until only one of you remain standing. Repeat several times through the day. Revel all nite, then repeat the next day. Recover at work.

tanstaafl

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:06 PM

Wulfhawk wrote:
"When folks call me an asshole, I usually thank them.

Thanks, Succatash."


LOL, I did not call you an asshole. I was speaking to Archer. But it's funny you assumed. I can tell you are one of those happy assholes, like me.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:07 PM

If I wanted to be beaten with rattan sticks, I'd load up on spraypaint and head for Singapore.

Madman.

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"I've always said the Chinese don't know how to handle a crisis. Have you ever seen one of their fire drills?"

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:09 PM

I only speak from past actuality -
Climb many assorted building throughout your town, (free climb, that is) ensuring that most are movie theaters. There is a law somewhere that says they must have a roof access for emergencies. (most schools have the same thing) Do this any time, day or night. Go in through the roof access in one of the movie theaters. Climb across the the inside of the roof of the theater until you are behind the screen. (be quiet- there are movie-watchers below) Climb down (in the dark) til you reach floor level then - POP OUT, with whoever you are with, and yell in a loud voice - "WE ARE THE CURTAIN PEOPLE!!" then run out. Either enjoy a different movie or just sit and watch that one if no one's in there. (which has happened)

your turn.
We'll need an impartial judge to say who is the winner.

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Archer:
If I wanted to be beaten with rattan sticks, I'd load up on spraypaint and head for Singapore.




Yeah but in Singapore you don't get to fight back.

Later,

ME.




Don't look back, som'thin' might be gainin' on ya.
Who let the pigs play poker?
Evo Shander was right!

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:12 PM

Maniac- Well, since you've shown me yours and I've shown you mine, we could just skip straight to the headbutting contest.

Kenwood- Good point, good point. All the same, I've done a perfectly fine job of abusing my own body, so I'll pass on any professional assistance.

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Friday, May 23, 2003 3:18 AM

First I'd like to thank Hardware for covering my pedantic self, while I ditched ya'll.

Next I'm gonna get this thread back into the bellicose nature it had enjoyed before we started called each other assholes, and smiling about it.

I don't take "documentaries" with a grain of salt, neither does anyone else who knows what a documentary is. Borrowing from Webster's online dictionary: "of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or art; broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE "a documentary film of the war"" and, btw, I really, really HATE using dictionary quotes in arguments, you forced my hand. You can do brevity without presenting the history in a distorted view to prove your pre-conceived conclusion. The British largely treated the Natives a lot better than the Spanish, but not as well as the French. The relationship between the British colonials and the natives was not as hostile or one-sided as Moore portrayed it. He didn't sacrafice depth for the sake of brevity, he sacraficed accuracy for the sake of his conclusion.

Guns = gun deaths?!?! Did you bother to read the links at all? Shall we discuss Washington D.C.? The city has the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation, firearms are practicaly illegal within city limits, and up until last year Washington DC had been the murder capital of the country, and has held that title for some years now. Only recently has Chicago surpassed it due to the immense (and long term) efforts of Mayor Richard Daley.

The issue isn't even whether more guns or less guns help. You can't wave a magic wand and reduce the number of them. You can pass laws outlawing their ownership, and try and enforce them. The issue then, is whether gun-control laws reduce gun homicides. Washington D.C. is a case in point demonstrating that gun-control laws do no such thing.

Suppose hypothetically gun-control reduced gun deaths, but lead to an even greater rise in the overall homicide rate. Would it make you feel any better if those murder victims were pushed out of windows? In Japan, where guns are rare as hen's teeth, the suicide rate is significantly greater than our own. Taiwan, the Phillipines, and Mexico have a higher non-gun murder rate than our total murder rate. The U.S. has a higher non-gun murder rate than many European countries total murder rates.

Here's another one for you. Prisons are about as gun-free an environment as it comes (excluding guards), how safe would you feel, in terms of physical safety in a prison?

-Infallible Logic
Maybe I didn't mention my background in Philosophy either. Ya'll ain't gettin' nothin' by this gun nut.
S1: "NOT All who own guns, commit murder with guns." T
S2: "There does not exist one person or specific group of people who commit ALL of the set of 'murders with firearms' " T
Conclusion: "gunshot deaths are caused by the entire gun-carrying population, in general."

Your conclusion does not follow from your arguments. If you like I'll present your arguments and conclusion from those arguments to the professor of logic at the University of Puget Sound, who's a good friend of mine.

In fact in state correctional facilities, fully 90% of felons convicted for weapons offenses had prior convictions. For the past decade FBI Uniform Crime Statistics have found that ~90% of firearms used in crimes were illegally acquired. The law was broken to acquire them. The people using them in crimes were criminals before they killed anyone with a gun. People who have concealed carry permits are significantly less likely than the general population to commit murder. Through 1997, only one permit holder in the state of Florida out of the over 350,000 permits issued, was convicted of homicide. If the rest of the country were so law abiding the U.S. would have the lowest homicide rate on earth.

Rural areas in the US have a higher gun ownership rate, and a lower murder rate. Gun-homicide rates are highest in cities, where gun ownership rate is lowest.

-Morgan

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Friday, May 23, 2003 3:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Succatash:
To talk more specifically about guns, here's how I see it.

More guns cause more gun deaths. More cars cause more car crashes. More births cause more deaths.

But taking away the right to own a gun is not the answer, because it's not the problem.



This is the last time I will post on this thread. All I can do is repeat myself, at this point. It's really easy to get a gun. Seems to me the right to conceal a gun only makes criminals wonder who might be packing.













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Friday, May 23, 2003 4:36 AM

Y'all are getting evil again. Does this thread need to be nominated for The Thread That Shall Not Be Named status?

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