Has ANYBODY heard ANYTHING about WHEN Blade Runner: SE???
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 21:09
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Quote:Keanu? Uh oh, is this gonna be another really good movie with two confusing and contradictory sequels to it?
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
Also read "A Scanner Darkly", which is in post-production as we speak...er, I mean type.
Keanu Reeves--my OTHER boyfriend*--stars.
Whoah Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Keanu? Uh oh, is this gonna be another really good movie with two confusing and contradictory sequels to it?
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
Also read "A Scanner Darkly", which is in post-production as we speak...er, I mean type.
Keanu Reeves--my OTHER boyfriend*--stars.
Whoah Chrisisall
Me? I hope so.
(By the way...I wasn't confused.)
If you read the original story first, then you'll have a reference point.
I don't usually expect movies adapted from books to go as deep as I'd like to, but that's the nature of the beast.
I'm gonna re-read Scanner before it comes out and I go see it. Then I'll let it go and see the movie for what it is: an ADAPTATION. Hopefully a pretty good one at that.
By the way, Keanu isn't responsible for what the writer writes. I'm not mad at Keanu.
He got paid...and he did some mighty fine things with the money he got paid.
You pretty much NEVER hear the star of a big-assed film say "I don't need all of this money. How much money can I possibly need?" and give "bonuses" from his paycheck to the fx and stunt crews.
He also gives tons of money (TONS)toward cancer research...but you don't hear a lot about it.
That's my man.
"Take me, sir. Take me hard." - Zoe
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Quote:Hey, I love Keanu, it was just a joke to slam Matrix 2 and 3.
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
By the way, Keanu isn't responsible for what the writer writes. I'm not mad at Keanu.
He also gives tons of money (TONS)toward cancer research...but you don't hear a lot about it.
Look at my video shelf- Matrix, Johnny Mnemonic, Bill and Ted, Chain Reaction, Point Break- he's the man!
Funny story I read, he and Woody Harrelson were at a party, and Woody said just 'cause he did Matrix didn't mean he knew Kung-Fu! Keanu said something like are you sure, and Woody rushed him to tackle him, and Keanu did a simple parry that sent Woody into some chairs and stuff. Woody then congratulated Keanu on his abilities!
I'm lookin' foward to this movie, but they messed up Minority Report, so I'll be holding my breath....
Gods, please make this one good Chrisisall
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I would recommend that all of you (especially you kids who never saw Blade Runner before now) read Philip K. Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?"
Yes, my brother keeps waxing lyrical about that book - I think I shall indulge ...
And am aghast to hear that Harrison has been two timing me!!!!
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it was just a joke to slam Matrix 2 and 3
It should not be a JOKE to slam Matrix 2 & 3 - they were SERIOUSLY BAD!!!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:There's been a LOT of speculation about this movie and it's meanings. The unicorn is supposed to mean ( to ME) that Deckard's new life w/Rachael is a fantasy, that she or possibly both of them will be dead soon.
Originally posted by Zoot:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
To sum up I may watch it many, MANY more times and oh, yes, he’s a gorram replicant and no mistake … no one that beautiful can be a real boy!!
Out of interest, what are supposed to think happens to them? Is the origami unicorn supposed to tell us they’ll die or what??
Others say that it means he knows Deckard's dreams, proving that he too is a replicant, in which case, the same applies. I prefer to think Deck's crafty enough to evade capture; that they have at least a shot at some kind of life together.
For a rather in-depth (and fascinating) discussion on the subject, go here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=9370
It was one of my first few threads here back in April, and we bounced it back and forth, waxing intelligent.
It also goes into the voiceover (which I like).
And, of course you can see why I love this film- and by extrapolation DA and FF!
Aired-out Chrisisall
SPOILERS BELOW!
The unicorn dream was not in the original theatrical release of the movie. The studio felt that the movie was just too dark and hard to understand, so they tacked on a happy ending and the voice-over. Harrison Ford didn't want to do the voice-over, so he phoned it in.
In the director's cut, Scott removed the voice-over, added the unicorn dream, to tie in with the origami unicorn at the end, and removed the scene of Deckard and Rachel flying away over the beautiful green landscape.
What the unicorn dream implies is that Deckard is a replicant. The origami unicorn demonstrates that Gaff knows about the dream, which means that it is implanted. This isn't my own speculation, this is from Ridley Scott himself (check out a book called "Future Noir" if you want to know absolutely everything about this movie).
Also, without the voice over, there is no indication that Rachel was "special" and therefore immune from the four-year lifespan.
So, in Scott's version, the movie ends with Deckard realizing that he's a replicant and he and Rachel on the lam, and both probably going to die within four years. In the theatrical release, Deckard is human, and he and Rachel fly off into the sunset to live happily ever after. Quite a difference!
Shawn
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Yeah, Minority Report was...different....but like I said, I read the book/story, then I kind of let it go. (A skill I developed early in life after being disappointed in the big screen version of The Shining. "Never again will I trust a movie to be like the book", the young and naive bookworm cried.)
I'm not a Tom Cruise fan...at all...but I was entertained by Minority Report...and flustered with Magnolia.
But that's a story for another time...
"Take me, sir. Take me hard."
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Quote:Deckard and his chief seem to have quite a history together, even if Deckard IS a replicant (very possible) he would seem to have been created before the advent of the four-year life span addition. And since Rachael is Tyrell's special, personal unit, it is reasonable to postulate that she had that particular trait left out of her so Tryell could observe the phenomena of self awareness take hold- indeed Rachael seemed more self aware than others like Batty, she may ALREADY BE more than four years old herself.
Originally posted by XON2000:
So, in Scott's version, the movie ends with Deckard realizing that he's a replicant and he and Rachel on the lam, and both probably going to die within four years.
Chrisisareplicant
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Deckard and his chief seem to have quite a history together, even if Deckard IS a replicant (very possible) he would seem to have been created before the advent of the four-year life span addition. And since Rachael is Tyrell's special, personal unit, it is reasonable to postulate that she had that particular trait left out of her so Tryell could observe the phenomena of self awareness take hold- indeed Rachael seemed more self aware than others like Batty, she may ALREADY BE more than four years old herself.
Originally posted by XON2000:
So, in Scott's version, the movie ends with Deckard realizing that he's a replicant and he and Rachel on the lam, and both probably going to die within four years.
Chrisisareplicant
Yeah, that's certainly possible, but I think that Scott really liked his bleak ending. Personally, I don't like that according to Scott's version, Deckard is definitely a replicant. I think it's more interesting for him to suspect that he is, and to question his memories and everything that he always assumed was true.
Oh, and back to the original topic, the last I heard about the special edition was probably a year or two ago. Scott was talking about doing a little Lucas-style revision to the original. I don't think he was considering changes as dramatic as the Star Wars Special Edition, but I know that he was talking about tweaking some sound effects and such. But it's been so long since I heard about that, I wonder if it's even a possibility any more. I would certainly like to have something better than the bare-bones version in the cardboard case.
Shawn
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Quote:You've touched on exactly what makes this a great film for me, that you're not hit on the head with a hammer in it; the bad guys aren't so bad, Deckard JUST MIGHT BE a replicant, and he wonders just how 'real' HE might be, and realizing that his love for Rachael IS DEFINITLY real, so damn the unicorns and full speed away!
Originally posted by XON2000:
I think it's more interesting for him to suspect that he is, and to question his memories and everything that he always assumed was true.
Scott has gone on record as stating that Decard definitly is a replicant, I prefer to believe he may be, and that we'll never really know, because that's the point of the film anyway- it doesn't matter- If you can think, love and feel, that's all that really matters.
Chrisiswaxingphilosophical
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