The biggest (untrue) myths concerning AIDS

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, September 19, 2005 21:27
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1) The Aids virus evolved naturally.
2) The Aids virus (Edited to read: can- see below) be transmitted by mosquitos.
3) Getting the Aids virus is an automatic death sentance for everyone; it's just a matter of time.

Anybody sill believe this junk?
Any want to get into it and teach us something (or maybe learn something)?

Chrisisall, PHDuh

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1) So how did the virus come to be?
2) HIV is only transmitted by transmitting bodily fluids (blood, semen, etc.) during sex, needle sharing, or any such activity.
3) HIV is not an automatic death sentence. People have been known to live relatively normal lives, with the current medicine and technology available. STILL, THAT"S NO EXCUSE NOT TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

I had an uncle (my mother's brother) who died from AIDS back in the early '90s, when there wasn't a lot known about it and no one really knew about treatment. And as a gay man, I consider this an issue that we should *ALL* be aware of and educate ourselves on.

www.aids.org/information.html has some great information on awareness, prevention, and treatment.

"Mwah ha ha ha...mine is an evil laugh. Now die."

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Hello,

Chris has posted some intriguing things about AIDS in the past, and I hope he will support his notions with some evidence we can all follow along with.

As for mosquitos... you know, I've always considered a mosquito's feeding tube just a very small needle. I always wondered about thet.

I've also always wondered about the AIDS fatality rate (untreated.) I know of very few naturally occurring diseases that are 100% lethal on 100% of the population 100% of the time.

Not that I'd go playing Russian Roulette with five bullets in the revolver...

--Anthony


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I think one of the greatest untrue myth is:

Condoms Don't Stop Aids (as the vatican sais)

I wouldn't say there is no way to get infected if you protect yourself with a condom, but if it came to be that my girlfriend has AIDS I'd most defenitly trust a condom. (But of course you can never tell, until you are in that position).

I think also read that there are a lot of people who think think that won't get infected with AIDS over Oral-Sex. Which is defenitly untrue!

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Don't forget this one:

AIDS is mostly just a problem for homosexuals.



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Originally posted by BlueBomber:
1) So how did the virus come to be?
2) HIV is only transmitted by transmitting bodily fluids (blood, semen, etc.) during sex, needle sharing, or any such activity.
3) HIV is not an automatic death sentence. People have been known to live relatively normal lives, with the current medicine and technology available.

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1) It was accidentally created by combining hepititus-B with a bovine-retrovirus in an attempt to create a Hep-B vaccine, it was tested on a portion of an African village population, who started developing immune problems. The 'scientists' were evacuated, and all traces eradicated. Then a visitor from Hati (who happened to be gay) got it before going back to his country and infecting others including a gay visitor from America (our patient zero).
http://www.originofaids.com/
has some info, but for obvious legal reasons, won't go into the role the US government played in the mess.
http://www.garynull.com/Issues/Aids2ndOpinion.aspx
This book deals with it in much better detail.
The 'hard' evidence for this story is not available, if it were, a massive worldwide legal action would be under way. Look for it to come out in twenty years or so when 'papers' surface, or those responsible are near death, and need to clear their conscience.
A little scientific digging will tell you that new viruses don't just 'appear' overnight, they evolve. And people have been getting bit by monkeys (green tree and otherwise) since way before 1979.
2) Mosquitos perform a type of 'needle sharing' when aquiring their meals. If shooed away before being sated, they will seek a new target. If their last one had (pick a virus), it can easily be transmitted in the next jab. This is why Africa is having such an epidemic, lots of mosquitoes. (malaria, anyone?)
3) You got that one, many can survive, even live well, they have to be super-aware of immune system detractors, though.
And some have been infected, and are immune, their bodies fight it off- why isn't more research being done w/these people, does it go against what experts say, and therefore is of no use to them? Or are drug companies disinclined to fund research that would end up cutting HEAVILY into their business?
4) Geezer's right, it is mainly a HUMAN disease w/no regard for who you make happy with.

Chrisisall, seeker of truth and Conspiracy Theorist par excellence

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Originally posted by Hardan:
I think one of the greatest untrue myth is:

Condoms Don't Stop Aids (as the vatican sais)

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Condoms cannot protect against Aids or getting pregnant (but they SURE help!!!!!)

Like, a lot Chrisisall

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

I've also always wondered about the AIDS fatality rate (untreated.) I know of very few naturally occurring diseases that are 100% lethal on 100% of the population 100% of the time.

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Another statistic I read, again, back in the late eighties, was that by 2000, 40% of the world population will have been exposed to the virus. Now IF that stat is correct, there is vast immunity...clearly we have not lost 40% of our population to this illness.
I wish I had the time to do hard research to support w/links and such, but I just don't have the raw time to do it. Just to find a link to that Gary Null book took 10 minutes!!! I'm not working on a very new computer, either, it freezes up a lot.

Stoneage electronics plagued Chrisisall

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by BlueBomber:
2) HIV is only transmitted by transmitting bodily fluids (blood, semen, etc.) during sex, needle sharing, or any such activity.
2) Mosquitos perform a type of 'needle sharing' when aquiring their meals. If shooed away before being sated, they will seek a new target. If their last one had (pick a virus), it can easily be transmitted in the next jab. This is why Africa is having such an epidemic, lots of mosquitoes. (malaria, anyone?)

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Chrisisall, I read a lot of your posts, and find myself agreeing with you most of the time. But, I can't go with you on this one.

Suppose a person who was HIV + got bitten by a mosquito. Now, the habits of mosquitoes are such that they don't feed again for quite some time after feeding; but for the sake of argument we'll say that same mosquito goes and bites a different person who is HIV - . The chances of the 2nd person getting infected with the virus are infinitesimal for two reasons: a mosquito's tube is slick, and so any blood it had around its mouth wouldn't stick there, for one. Secondly, the concentration of HIV in a person's blood stream isn't uniform; a drop that small (remember, we're talking about the area around a mosquito's mouth) isn't guaranteed to even contain the virus. www.aids.org/information.html

A tangent point: Malaria isn't transmitted by just any mosquito. It has to be an insect of the genus "Anopheles" ( www.malaria.org/learnaboutmalaria.html), which were largely eradicated from North American in the '40s and '50s. These days, I'd be more worried about West Nile.

I have no evidence to dispute your claims as to the origin of the AIDS virus, so I'll stay away from that one. Though, it seems to me that the AIDS epidemic hit rather suddenly (the symptoms were first noted in the US in 1978; the term "AIDS" wasn't used until 1982) and without warning. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, but....

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