How Universal treats you, its customers
POSTED BY: SebastianFelis
UPDATED: Friday, September 16, 2005 19:32
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Originally posted by SebastianFelis:
And, out of curiosity, who are They? Might be me; I work for a multinational megacorporation, though I don't buy their product.
You work for 'em? The own you.
They're paying you? You're theirs.
You don't buy their product. Whose product do you buy?
(If you've never seen "The Corporation", you should check it out. It'll definitely give you an idea how The Alliance is pretty much already here.)
And as for people giving power to them?
You give "power" to the corporation when you buy their shit.
Buy a CD? Go to Mickey D's? Watch TV and see the commercials?
Open your wallet and you're giving power to the corps. That's the way it is.
Hey, I'm sorry you got a nasty shock at the end of the BDMovie with this waiver thing.
But as far as suing someone?
I hate to say it, but you'd be wasting your time and money. Unless you have it like that time and money wise, that is.
"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe
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I don't see where my "likeness" would do em any good, cause if I had that much of an issue with it, I would go buy an empty XL popcorn bucket, cut two eyeholes in it, and put it on my head.
Likeness, what likeness ?
There, problem solved!
-Frem
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Well,
It's nice to know that what little reputation we had as friendly, easy-going fans is being eliminated by such complaining.
Now that our friend has drafted a letter to Universal, it is no longer whining on our little board but an official threat of legal action.
Yippee.
Customer in question has
A) Seen a document which says, "If you don't want to be filmed for free, get out."
B) Decided to stay and enjoy the Q&A.
C) Complains about it later, after admittedly seeing the statement and deciding to stay.
Customer in question did not
A) Take advantage of the opportunity to leave.
B) Complain to anyone at the time.
C) Make any attempt at renumeration from the management for his 'double price ticket.'
Customer has further
A) Spoken on behalf of others at the Q&A who may not share his bloody feelings.
I understand the position of this customer.
Customer sees a sign that says, "Fire is Hot."
Customer sticks hand in fire.
Customer gets burned.
Customer complains because he got burned, and did not agree that fire should be hot ahead of time, and further complains on behalf of everyone else because they might have gotten burned, too.
Bah. Go order a McDonald's coffee and leave the BDM alone. Wasn't there any other implied consent event you could have trashed?
Universal was perhaps rude. But customer is now verging on ludicrous.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Am re posting what I wrote on Serenity Oz
Yes...corporate legalize sux...but I am still outraged by the demands of this person.
Now IF it is the same person who says on that board that they never spoke even into the microphone then this is just giving the BDM a bad note!
Fine...fight your fight...go right ahead but please not at Serenity's feet.
I am sure whoever wrote that letter is reading this thread or will read it...
Truth is...you did have the right to stand to the side of the room behind the camera and out of reach of the front cam.
It is your perogative not to have done so.
Yes I understand your position in the way you believe it was handled.
But ...it's a business... and I don't believe this is the place to fight it.
They do have their big lawyers and perhaps you were just trying to make a point to them about handling things more politely (in your opinion)
Maybe this document was not meant for our eyes...and only for Universals.
And perhaps we should not have been privy to it (in my opinion)
Point is...this isn't helping the film or Joss, or the chance of sequels.
So...either be quiet, or take it out of public scrutiny and not post your opposition in open forums.
Go straight to the source....don't try and make an army out of the fans..
Because, I don't think many of us will be fighting alongside you if it may hurt the film.
In fact, I actually fear that you may turn the army upon yourself. Which in itself defeats the purpose.
luvs nix
added to here...
I had the mic and asked 2 questions...the Blue Sun/Alliance one and the Disgruntled Tamagotchi's one...I'd be bloody honoured if they put my head on the DVD!
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Originally posted by SebastianFelis:Quote:
Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
Cry, baby, cry. Make your mother sigh.
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"Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I recognise the quote from episode one. But if that's a swipe at my position, you might want to read your own sig.
It's also a quote from a song by a little known band called "The Beatles."
Meanwhile, you're talking like you're some great revolutionary trying to change the course of the world by fighting injustice, but all you're actually doing is whining about something that's completely pointless. Oh noes! Universal, the company that allowed our beloved crew to be brought back, on the big screen, no less, wants to ensure that they can maybe use your image for the special features for the DVD of the afforementioned movie? Ooh, Mummy, Mummy, kiss it and make it better!
Principles are all well and good, but pick your battles, man.
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"Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
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The point is... you gave them your money anyway. If you were that upset, you should have asked for your money back and left the studio. Instead, you did technically agree to their terms.
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Originally posted by SebastianFelis:
> The There is that. But as more people start speaking up about what is annoying them, like this, the more that the likes of Universal start to realise they're upsetting the people whose money they're relying on.
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The point is... you gave them your money anyway. If you were that upset, you should have asked for your money back and left the studio. Instead, you did technically agree to their terms.
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Originally posted by SebastianFelis:
> The There is that. But as more people start speaking up about what is annoying them, like this, the more that the likes of Universal start to realise they're upsetting the people whose money they're relying on.
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... and if there had been only a signboard as in other theatres would you have complained that you really wanted it in writing???Most BCs would PAY to be in a DVD extra...
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I simply don't understand why there's sudden uproar about this...it's apparent Universal has used this same notice/letter before (as said by those who posted the picture of the sign at a Q&A) and no one has said anything...
You got to go to a Q&A. You got to see a Big Damn Hero. Universal wants you to know that they have the right to use any questions you ask/statements you make in future material, and I'm assuming that means DVD extras/marketing uses and not much more...it's not as if it will hurt anyone. What's the problem here? (Maybe my age is limiting my understanding, but I'm 14 - not stupid. But I'd appreciate if someone could tell me an unbiased view of this whole thing...it just seems like whining to me.)
"Bwaa...it's kind of a warrior...strikes fear into the hearts of..."
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I guess I'm really confused here. You had a right to get up and walk out and ask to be refunded.
I have worked with Universal people at two of the screenings and they could not have been nicer. They are really terrific people.
I think you are really making something out of nothing in my humble opinion.
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