Firefly/Serenity. Why is this show cancelled again???
POSTED BY: FireFlyhooked32
UPDATED: Saturday, September 24, 2005 05:59
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I just rented this gem last Friday (only disc one). After watching the pilot I quickly ran out to the nearest Best Buy to purchase the entire season.
Now I tried my best to quickly soak in the "Firefly" situation with FOX, and I have one question.
I understand that FOX controlls the rights to Firefly inregards to new episodes, and that Sci-Fi is now showing re-runs.
Isn't this similar to the situation that Family Guy ran into? FOX cancelled and re-runs were picked up on cartoon network (or was it comedy central?) and followed with amazing DVD sales FOX decides to purchase new episodes of the Family Guy.
So I know this is wishfull thinking, but with the great DVD sales of Firefly and a potential to do very well at the boxoffice - isn't it in the realm of possibilty that FOX would rethink this move?
FOX execs see $$$ and with great DVD sales - good boxoffice (fingers crossed) especially when good boxoffices are rare - wouldn't it be in FOX's best interest to re-sign?
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fox is dumb remember they thought firefly was a dud so they thought it was a lost cause.
oh no fox and microsoft have merged what will we do
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OK Fox made a huge mistake with cancelling Firefly - we all know this. But the same could be said with what they did with FamilyGuy - but in the end FOX still did a 180 and re-signed them.
I don't have faith that FOX will resign Firefly because it's well-written, nor do I have faith that they will re-sign Firefly because it has a large loyal fanbase.........I do have faith that FOX will re-sign Firefly because it will make them money and hopefully lots of it.
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what i don't understand is, WHY all this (marketing and inspiration, recognization of the quality level of the show...) was so bad? i dont know anybody, who disliked the show by now - and i wonder why people whose job is, to find out what we wanna see on tv and to fight for good *sendezeit* and everything weren't better in what they were doing...
(can anybody understand my poor english-trials? ;-) sorry for that, but i'm better in listening...)
here in germany its the same shit with good (american) shows (our own shows are not even a bit recognizable): they put them in the middle of the week, in the late evening (23.15 perhaps or 1.15 ...) and without ANY trailers (last time it was the mess with "the shield"). and after this, they "wonder" why no-one is watching! then they cancel the show - and if you ask two weeks later, if anybody recognized it or liked it, you became the same answer: we didn'nt know, that there were something like this on tv!?
so, WHY is this, that people whose job is, to recognize something, couldn't be good in what they are doing? they have no sense for good things or jewels like "firefly" - and all they are doing is putting another judgement-show or "how-was-our-day"-things or another stupid reality show into the programme - and then they wonder, why the culture of sharing files in the net is so
increasing... :-/
Firefly fans are spread all over the world - and i cannot wait to see the movie here in Germany!!! :)
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written by BMAURO
I understand that FOX controlls the rights to Firefly inregards to new episodes, and that Sci-Fi is now showing re-runs.
Isn't this similar to the situation that Family Guy ran into? FOX cancelled and re-runs were picked up on cartoon network (or was it comedy central?) and followed with amazing DVD sales FOX decides to purchase new episodes of the Family Guy.
So I know this is wishfull thinking, but with the great DVD sales of Firefly and a potential to do very well at the boxoffice - isn't it in the realm of possibilty that FOX would rethink this move?
FOX execs see $$$ and with great DVD sales - good boxoffice (fingers crossed) especially when good boxoffices are rare - wouldn't it be in FOX's best interest to re-sign?
it would be... FOX is stupid
so i don't know if they will do this. Now, if FOX decides to give Joss an offer, it will be up to Joss to take it up or not. if that happens it seems like it's a no brainer to put the show back on, right? The problem is if FOX wants Joss back, it's going to have to be a GOOD deal. I would love to have firefly back, no matter what. But as for Joss, i wouldn't blame him if he needs a really sweet deal to put firefly back on to FOX!this is a good land. and we shall call it ... this land.
(grrrrrrrrr........argggggg)
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Quote:I'm sorry to disappoint you. But this question has been asked of Joss and the cast so many times. And they always give the same answer. Sorry, it doesn't look possible.
Originally posted by engineangel:
I am particularly disappointed with CANTTAKESKY.
I was at DragonCon last weekend, when someone again asked this to the cast. Is it possible, at all, if Serenity makes a gazillion dollars at the box office, for Firefly to come back as a TV series? Adam Baldwin answered no. Maybe as a animated series, or it could live on as a comic book series. Definitely they were hoping that it would live on in the movies. But on TV, as it was before, he said no. Then he added that no one wanted to see a 50-60 year old Jayne, anyway. (I think he is around 40 now.)
So yes, it is disappointing. I wouldn't be here on this board if it weren't disappointing to me too. I do admire everyone who has the faith to keep hoping. But I figure, who knows the situation better than Joss and the cast? If they are saying no, then maybe that is the most realistic thing to expect at this point.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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Sorry for all the dumb replies here - cause I am new here and I know everyone here has heard this a million times.
But when the cast (Adam Baldwin in this case) say that no one would want to see a 50 year old Jayne - isn't that looking at if the show would come back on the air once FOX's contract expires in 10 years?
I'm asking about the chance that FOX will re-sign them after the movie - more like a year or two.
I don't blame them (cast and crew) - I wouldn't want to wait around 7+ years to make more episodes, but has Joss or anyone on from the cast mentioned what they would do if FOX asked them back for more? (Again not a 7+ years down the road - but relatively soon)
Again - I apologize for this dumb hope - but I just discovered Firefly this past weekend and I would hate to think that I'll never have more than 14 episodes (minus the movies :)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you. But this question has been asked of Joss and the cast so many times. And they always give the same answer. Sorry, it doesn't look possible.
I was at DragonCon last weekend, when someone again asked this to the cast. Is it possible, at all, if Serenity makes a gazillion dollars at the box office, for Firefly to come back as a TV series? Adam Baldwin answered no. Maybe as a animated series, or it could live on as a comic book series. Definitely they were hoping that it would live on in the movies. But on TV, as it was before, he said no. Then he added that no one wanted to see a 50-60 year old Jayne, anyway. (I think he is around 40 now.)
So yes, it is disappointing. I wouldn't be here on this board if it weren't disappointing to me too. I do admire everyone who has the faith to keep hoping. But I figure, who knows the situation better than Joss and the cast? If they are saying no, then maybe that is the most realistic thing to expect at this point.
i'm sorry for my rant before, but you need to understand that things can change, CANTTAKESKY. He did say in 10 years. Circumstances might change. Also, maybe they'll focus in on one or two characters, or figure out a reason to put on tv that some of the characters are missing. it doesn't sound as good I know, but still it's something. A very good point to make is that after a triology they might start a series that starts of from where the last movie leaves off. There are just so many possibilities, listed and not listed here. CANTTAKESKY, just please don't lose hope!
this is a good land, and shall call it ... this land.
(grrrrrrrrr........arrrggggg)
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Every time this subject has come up before, the same mistake keeps being made. Everyone seems to think that the FOX televison network is the company that holds the tv rights to Firefly. They are not. It is 20th Century Fox Film Studios, the studio that produced it, as well as producing Buffy and Angel (which aired on networks other than FOX). Yes, they are owned by the same corporation, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, but they are separate business entities.
20th is the company that licensed the film rights to Universal, and they are the ones who licensed the repeat rights to NBC/Universal's Sci-Fi Channel. They are the ones who will decide the fate of Firefly/Serenity on the small screen, and even if they can convince Joss to come back to tv, you can be gorram sure it will not be to the FOX network.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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Quote:No need to apologize. We were all new once, and someone else had to explain it to us.
Originally posted by bmauro:
Sorry for all the dumb replies here - cause I am new here and I know everyone here has heard this a million times.
Quote:It would seem that the expiration is what he is referring to. Also, keep in mind that Joss and the cast are all looking for or already involved in new jobs. For all of them to be free to do a weekly TV series again, it'll take time, maybe beyond the 10 years.
But when the cast (Adam Baldwin in this case) say that no one would want to see a 50 year old Jayne - isn't that looking at if the show would come back on the air once FOX's contract expires in 10 years?
Quote:As ECGordon said, if FOX asked them for more episodes, it would be 20th Century FOX studios, and not FOX TV. Could they make that request? *I* don't see why not, but Baldwin's answer seems to suggest it won't happen. Maybe he knows something we don't. What I understand from Baldwin's comments is that Firefly will not come back as the series it was. I think that if Serenity makes a gazillion dollars, and they want Firefly back on TV soon, it would come back as a spin-off with one or more characters, or revamped with a brand new cast like The Next Generation.
I'm asking about the chance that FOX will re-sign them after the movie - more like a year or two.
The sense I get from all the interviews with Joss and the cast is, they've moved on. The TV series is over. They are focusing on the movie(s), which Joss wants to use to finish telling the story. Serenity is the equivalent of season 2 of Firefly, he said. I would imagine the sequels would be seasons 3 and 4 or more. Also, movies is where most actors want to be. It's good for their careers. I don't blame them for not wanting to go back to TV if there is a real chance for them to continue on the big screen.
Quote:I don't mean to squash all hopes. What do I know anyway? Hope away. Don't let me take your gorram sky.
Again - I apologize for this dumb hope - but I just discovered Firefly this past weekend and I would hate to think that I'll never have more than 14 episodes (minus the movies :)
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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