Angel Season Finale: what'd y'all think?

POSTED BY: Melee
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 00:44
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LUPA

Sunday, May 11, 2003 2:54 AM

I was out on Wednesday and I just watched the tape and I've got to say - I Loved It!
I really hope the WB will pick Angel up next season. I am so glad to say Good-bye to Connor and I think the finale sets everyone else up for some great storylines.

PS - I hope Lilah stays on as our evil cruise director.

"I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is just so bad. It's depressing." Tara, BTVS

SUCCATASH

Sunday, May 11, 2003 6:38 AM

I am intrigued by the way Angel and friends have "sort of" joined with the dark side law firm. I'm looking forward to seeing Angel fight Caleb on Buffy.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Sunday, May 11, 2003 8:22 PM

Little question, do we know if Angel gave up anything? I don't remember any soul bartering, all I thought that he did was take the job. So that means that until we hear the catch, which there might not be one, we don't know if there are any negative consequences.

The reason I say that there might not be one is because sometimes that’s the worst you can do. Then they spend all of this time looking for the catch, and being on their guard about everything that they accept. So then the don’t notice when the real bad things start to happen.

SERENITYVALLEY

Monday, May 12, 2003 12:07 AM

You're not going to believe what happened to me. Okay, I watch Angel religiously right? I tape every episode from City of. So I was psyched about the season (possibly series) finale of Angel, and what does the local cable station do? Well, the WB was out for TWO DAYS! I MISSED ANGEL! It's not fair! And this freaky thing is, that happened with the series finale/pilot of Firefly too! Creepy!

So, what happened on Angel? I'm dying to know. So far, what I've gathered is something about Angel peeps taking a job at W&H, something about 'none of this neer happened', Conner going to live with another family to be happy, gun went to see the little girl in red? Conner strapped explosives to Cordy? Wes did SOMETHING everyone's worked up about. Something good I recken. I get the whole special windows thing I think. What happened at the end? What happened in the WHOLE episode?

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon

CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, May 12, 2003 12:47 AM

Ok, lets see.
Evil lawyer came back from the dead, wes let it slip that she was a "loved one" and from the thus far recap to the intro was just everyone looking at her and each other in shock.

Seems W&H gave up and gave them the LA offices. Newly restocked. So connor is off being himself, full of self pitty and all. Angel is looking for him, and everyone in the team begins to think of what they could do with the LA branch of W&H. So they go to take the tour.

We don't know what Gunn saw. Fred saw the best labs in existance, all answering to him. Wes was shown the most extencive library of mysitcal stuff around. Then he knocked out the guy doing the showing, grabed the dead girl's copntract and lit it on fire, so that he could set her free and she wouldn't have to burn in hell. Didn't work, she's got a regenerateing contract.

Our green friend found out that W&H repersents eveyong in entertasinment he ever wanted to meet. And Angel got an office with a plasma TV, a private elevator to the motor pool where he has a bunch of cars, the joy of feeling sunlight without burting into flames (specail glass) and most importantly he got Connor a new life.

See Connor got all pissy and decided to blow up a bunch of inocent people, as well as himself, and Cordi (still comatose.)

Some say he didn't want to kill them all, but he was definately ready to kill himself and Cordi. Angel shows up, like connor knew he would, and Connor makes a whiney speach. Then ANgel kills him.

Everyone meets in the lobby, Angel says he accepted the offer (thus the LA branch now belongs to them) after they all decide they will. And no one remebers Connor. Angel takes a long limo ride to see him, where he is enjoying a diner with his family and talking about how much he loves them while discussing college prospects.

Sorry about the spelling, I think that covers everything.

SERENITYVALLEY

Monday, May 12, 2003 12:54 AM

Thank you sooooo much. That clears things up. Still wish I coulda seen it though. Think they'll do reruns? Don't tell me I gotta wait for the DVD! Ha!

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon

CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, May 12, 2003 1:01 AM

Well don't miss the next Buffy, Angel is on that.

By the way like your sig and whatever they call the quote by your avatar.

SERENITYVALLEY

Monday, May 12, 2003 1:44 AM

Well, with the way my local cable station has been treating joss da boss whedon show finalies, the tv will probably go all fuzzy for the last buffy episode too. *sigh*

thanks

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon

BEANNACHD

Monday, May 12, 2003 6:17 PM

I agree, scifisiren. I think Conor just couldn't stand it any more. Everything in his life has been a lie - his father wasn't really his father, the creature he'd been taught to hate and see as evil, isn't evil, Cordy made love to him, but didn't love him, and finally, Jasmine, who made everyone in the world feel loved and accepted BUT HIM, was a lie - just the lie he chose instead of having it foisted on him. And even that didn't work.
Poor kid.
I think I'm the only one who liked Conor. Yeah, the whining was irritating, but he is a TEENAGER, folks. That's pretty much what they do, and all the gods know he had reason to be screwed up. I think it's amazing he was a functional as he was, given the life he had.
And he was right about Angel - "You let him take me, Dad. You let him get me." Whether there was anything he could have done about it or not, the fact remains - Conor's been betrayed by everyone and everything he's cared about.
Why should he have faith that anything would ever work out? Angel was right - something broke inside Conor when he killed Jasmine.
Angel did the right thing - giving up Conor for his own good, just as he gave up Buffy for her own good. Makes you wonder what's gonna happen with Cordy.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, May 12, 2003 11:09 PM

How many teenagers do you know? It has been my experience (at 17 years of age) that most teenagers are fairly well equipped to deal with life without constantly whining.

Those that have been put in life threatening situations usually excel or crack. Connor did neither (until the very end), he simply whined. That doesn't fit any stereotype for teenager that I know, so whatever this all encompassing "he’s a teenager" excuse is supposed to mean, it doesn't work. And of course reality is even more divergent than the stereotypes.

If you want to try and write off the whining as something you can say “he is a ________, folks,” about then maybe it should be that he is culturally juxtaposed. Or that he was raised in the 9th level of Dante’s Hell* (the most depressing level, although the human element of the second circle was a real downer.) Perhaps the psychological stress of having to constantly reevaluate his life as new lies came to light could be a reason.

My point is that to say “Yeah, the whining was irritating, but he is a TEENAGER, folks. That's pretty much what they do,” is a very stupid thing to say, which in no way reflects the true situation of the world, and is very clearly not true.

In my life (shorter than yours I assume) I have met people from the suicidal to the ecstatic, and of this range I have seen no evidence that the amount someone whines is dependent upon age. If you have something that shows evidence to the contrary and is not a simple desire to fall back on the assumption of superiority and take comfort in disassociation from those with less experience in the world, please let me know. I’ll format a response to that in a more formal manner and accept you as someone who has something of value to add.

*I believe it was the Ninth level of Dante Alighieri's Hell, but am not sure. I don’t have any direct references to what the “Hell dimension” Connor grew up in was. It is obviously not a direct translation of Dante’s Hell regardless of whether I am right about this being where it was said he was sent or not. Dante’s Hell was in one dimension that being the one we are in, and the ninth level was almost exactly at the center of the earth. Satan himself occupied the very center of the earth, frozen into the center of the ninth level.

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