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I'm ready to start pointing fingers

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Saturday, September 3, 2005 10:35 PM

How does "negligent homicide" sound?

Please don't think they give a shit.

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Saturday, September 3, 2005 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
How does "negligent homicide" sound?

Please don't think they give a shit.


How about "Negligent Genocide"?

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

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Saturday, September 3, 2005 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
How does "negligent homicide" sound?

Please don't think they give a shit.


How about "Negligent Genocide"?

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.



If that was an actual charge, anyone who pressed to continue the Iraq sanctions through the late 90's should be charged with it.



When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 2:32 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
I heard on the news this morning that when the National Guard finally did arrive in New Orleans on Friday (yesterday...5 days late) they were instructed to evacuate the people stranded in the Hilton (people with food, water and working toilets) BEFORE they were allowed to evacuate those who were really suffering (the poor, the elderly, the sick, small children) in the sports dome.

And now I hear that the President is too good to accept aid from other countries. Countries that are willing to send helicopters, hospital ships, and all kinds of needed trained organized help. No, no, we'll just leave the bodies to rot in the heat and humidity for another week.



Shouldn't we wait until the facts are clear?

There's enough blame to go around. Isn't it better to find out all of the people who made bad decisions and evaluate the whole situation?

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by evilmike:
Shouldn't we wait until the facts are clear?


I think there has been too much waiting already.
I think we should write to our Senators & Congressman and make sure they know,
we want to know that the nurses and doctors are getting replacements so they can get some rest
(because those replacements have NOT arrived yet)
and we don't want the refugees currently in Houston to be forgotten,
they are not Houston's problem:
we ALL have to help.

write to your Senator:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
AND your Congressman:
http://www.house.gov/
people need help desperately now.

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 3:14 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by evilmike:
Shouldn't we wait until the facts are clear?


I think there has been too much waiting already.
I think we should write to our Senators & Congressman and make sure they know,
we want to know that the nurses and doctors are getting replacements so they can get some rest
(because those replacements have NOT arrived yet)
and we don't want the refugees currently in Houston to be forgotten,
they are not Houston's problem:
we ALL have to help.



I've got no problem with helping and making sure the government does what it supposed to. It's that blame thing that needs time, investigation, and facts.

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 3:38 AM

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Originally posted by evilmike:
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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by evilmike:
Shouldn't we wait until the facts are clear?


I think there has been too much waiting already.
I think we should write to our Senators & Congressman and make sure they know,
we want to know that the nurses and doctors are getting replacements so they can get some rest
(because those replacements have NOT arrived yet)
and we don't want the refugees currently in Houston to be forgotten,
they are not Houston's problem:
we ALL have to help.



I've got no problem with helping and making sure the government does what it supposed to. It's that blame thing that needs time, investigation, and facts.



Here is a question for you:

Were you satisfied with the 911 commisions report ?

It seems that waiting for answers doesn't work so well anymore.



When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Here is a question for you:

Were you satisfied with the 911 commisions report ?

It seems that waiting for answers doesn't work so well anymore.



And assigning blame without the facts is the only alternative?

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by evilmike:
Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Here is a question for you:

Were you satisfied with the 911 commisions report ?

It seems that waiting for answers doesn't work so well anymore.



And assigning blame without the facts is the only alternative?



I'd like somewhere in the middle... but then again I don't really think blame will fall on those it should anyway... if past history is any judge.




When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

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Sunday, September 4, 2005 5:28 AM

I'm continually amazed at the Bush blame game going on here. Does anyone understand the scope of this disaster?

To put things in a little perspective, the total area of destruction is BIGGER than the entire country of England! No amount of preparation was enough for damage of this scope, simply because there was no model to base a disaster of this scope on. FEMA's models were considerably lower! They simply weren't ready for this, and a few days notice wasn't nearly enough! The Governor of LA (D) and the Mayor of NO (D) waited until sunday to request federal aid. That wasn't nearly enough time for something this large. Too bad Mother Nature didn't send us all her schedule months in advance, but lets not blame an act of God or nature's unpredictablility. Maybe we should blame the citizens that didn't leave when warned, though that's hardly fair when they've heard these warnings time after time, and the predictions end up being wrong! Guess what people, that's why it's called a prediction. It's educated guess work, and quite simply, no one really knew what would happen. 20/20 hindsight is so much easier!

If there's any obvious blame, it's with the Governor of Louisiana, who waited too long to act, and was more interested in ordering the National Guard to shoot looters than rescue people! We should also question the Mayor of New Orleans, who was the one who ordered the tourists in the Haytt (in an unflooded section of the French Quarter) moved by bus to the Superdome, where he then had them put at the front of the line waiting for busses leaving the city. It seems obvious, that despite his own ranting about his peoples needs, he placed the needs of some tourists in front of his citizens! Don't blame the Guardsmen. They are there to support the local government, not to take charge and invoke martial law. They take their orders from the local and state agencies, not the federal government. (This was well reported on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX News).

Considering how inaccessible New Orleans is to start with, surrounded by three major bodes of water (the gulf, a major lake and the Mississippi river), when you factor in the flooding, it's a miracle help got there when it did! It's also amazing what they've been able to accomplish now that they are on scene.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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