If you've seen it at a screening, please rate Serenity as compared to...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, September 4, 2005 05:24
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Well. Being a huge fan of the Novel Bladerunner. And then seeing the movie and completly loathing it and 6thinking it to be garbage compared to the book. The BDM is a trillion times better than that.
havent seen much of the rest. I liked it alot better than the 1 dimensional revenge of the sith and batman begins (which was awesome buit the fight scens sucked lots))
So yeah The first time I saw it it had a few parts that almost had a horror movie esque feel for me as a browncoat but now that Ive sene it twice it actually gets better after each time I see it.
Hopefully other people will too.
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I wouldn't describe Serenity as a movie that stands up to repeated viewings so much as a movie that demands repeated viewings. It is just... so much, and so unrelenting. I have never left a movie feeling so physically and emotionally affected before. Granted, I have never had so much personally invested in a movie before either, but still.
Even though Serenity demands to be seen again, I, for one, was not ready to see it again right away. It took me a while to process it all. I think the first weekend might need to depend more on Universal's promotion (as opposed to our own repeated viewings) than alot of Browncoats think. Browncoats who haven't had the opportunity to experience Serenity in advance may underestimate the power this movie can hold over them. Second weekend, though, that's all ours.
Needless to say, I, too, am having difficulty relating this movie to any others I've liked. It's just...more.
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I had to reply because the BDM has had to walk a very fine line in keeping us fans happy and in bringing the story to the rest of the world. I loved the screening I saw and anyone who loves the characters will hop right on the bandwagon. It's way too much fun not too. But... As remarkable a job as Joss has done I wonder if he might have achieved a more explosive and focused piece of storytelling if he had been able to start it all from the beginning. I think all the elements of a true classic are there and it is unfortunate in some ways that we need to drop in to the story in the middle. It's managed beautifully and it was very satisfying for me and I only hope that first-timers connect quickly to the cast of characters because the story is full on right from the beginning. To answer the question of this post, as a movie I'd rate it far above any of the recent sci-fi outings with the exception of the first Matrix. It's definitly worth multiple viewing.
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This post may come across as more critical than I mean it to, so let me start by saying that Serenity had more emotional impact on me than any film I can remember. I love Joss Whedon's voice, his characters, and his worlds with an obsessive fervor. But here I'm going to try to step away from the position of adoring fan and attempt a little objectivity (if such a thing is even possible in art, which is at all times subjective).
I haven't seen Star Wars and Raiders in a long time, too long to know how I'd feel about them today.
Blade Runner is a classic, a visual masterpiece. Very few films have come close on the level of design and cinematography. But as the film's strengths are mainly visual, it works in an entirely different way than Serenity, whose strengths are much more rooted in character and dramatic impact.
Visually, I'd say that Blade Runner is superior. Serenity, however, holds its own. It is by no means an ugly film (except, of course, in the ways intended by Joss). When it comes to other aspects, I'd lean toward Serenity (acting, script, etc).
I've become a huge fan of the new Battlestar Galactica series. BG owes a great debt to Firefly - I'd even consider it an offspring of sorts, at least when it comes to gritty realism in sci-fi. So when I say that I rate BG slightly higher than Serenity, keep in mind that I believe BG wouldn't even exist in its current form without the groundbreaking work done on Firefly. Rating BG against the Firefly story as a whole, I'd lean toward Firefly.
Serenity tries its damnedest to exist as a stand-alone, but its real strengths lie in continuity with the series. BG, of course, has never had that particular hoop to jump through - so I suppose it isn't an entirely fair comparison.
[Edited to say: I suppose BG could have tried harder to appeal to fans of its original incarnation, but it didn't. Some might claim that the new BG went so far as to slap those original fans in the face. As I've never seen the original, this wasn't an issue for me.]
Another issue - BG (so far) has managed to establish an amazingly detailed (albeit well-confined) universe in about one and a half seasons. By this I mean not only the setting but the explanation and follow-through on every major plot point, character, etc. Serenity's plot has a few gaps that are a bit larger than I'm comfortable with. Unfortunately, further discussion requires spoilers, so I'll stop there.
Again, we're comparing apples and oranges (or maybe even apples and ... antelope). A TV series and a film are two entirely different beasts. My main bias comes from the fact that BG continues to provide jaw-droppingly good entertainment week after week, whereas unfortunately, Serenity is only one film, and we won't see another one for at least a few more years. (This isn't at all a judgment on Firefly - I blame the FOX execs entirely for its cancellation.)
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its hard to compare anything to Star Wars but if i had to this movie would be the one to do it.
Id say the same about Raiders of the Lost Arc.
As for the others.....i hadnt really watched em intently so id say Serenity the whole way!
ITS A GOOD MOVIE NO WORRIES!
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Quote:How could you not like Blade Runner? It has this great message about acceptance, and the humanity in us all...
Originally posted by Jacqui:
You know, at the risk of being hunted down and shot at (a lot) I've never really liked ANY of the movies you've just listed.
You must be killed.
Kidding Chrisisall
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I didn't like bladerunner cause I read the book first.
And the book made the movie seem like a bad joke.
A really bad joke that was a AWFUL movie.
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I'll side with Chrisisall on Blade Runner. It is a much better movie than Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is a book. I've gone on record in my Philip K. Dick article - http://templetongate.tripod.com/dick.htm - and my Blade Runner review - http://templetongate.tripod.com/bladerunner.htm - to say that Dick is the foremost "idea man" in all of SF, but his prose style left a lot to be desired.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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I didn't like bladerunner cause I read the book first.
And the book made the movie seem like a bad joke.
A really bad joke that was a AWFUL movie.
Are you referring to Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, or Blade Runner: A Movie? DADoES was the source for the movie Blade Runner, but BR:aM has nothing to do with the actual movie except the title.
Confused?
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Whoah, you ARE a Blade Runner FAN!
I didn't know if I could play Chrisisall
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